On 11/01/18 21:37, Stephen Houston wrote:
Why would you still be holding down your trackpad after alt+right click?
Good point...but I had assumed that after clicking, I would need to move
the pointer to the place where I could click on Remove, which would mean
keeping it pressed while I moved it — not forgetting that at this stage
I hadn't yet seen what would appear, so I didn't know what to expect.
That's not how alt+rclick has ever worked, not even on the windows which is
what this behavior mimics (which keeps the design theory you are speaking
of that all things should work the same intact).
Then that's just my ignorance. I haven't ever had to use Windows beyond
the trivial, so I really don't know how it operates.
Once you've clicked and the menu is there, obviously you can let go....
The problem was that the menu *wasn't* there. It SIGSEGV'd.
Perhaps don't haste to call the work of others thoughtless without
asking first. This is EXACTLY the behavior of every right click menu
in enlightenmntt including that which manipulates windows. There is
no design discrepancy. No one is trying too hard.
I apologise. I was frustrated by not being able to get rid of the
exclamation marks, and right-click doesn't bring up a menu as it does
most other places. The need for Alt seems to me to be redundant: it
would never have occurred to me in a million years to use Alt with
right-click to get the menu.
If there is a crash, please report it by filing a ticket on phab
rather than making accusatory comments about said software.
I don't accuse any software for having bugs — I've written far too much
of it in my life to do that. I merely commented on the SIGSEGV and how
it was recoverable (one of E's really strong points).
Perhaps there was a simple bug that was a mistake and is easily
repaired.
It used to happen a lot in e17 under Xubuntu but it almost always
recovered. But it was random and not replicable, so there was no point
in filing a bug report. This was the first time this version of E has
done it.
You can choose
to live without gadgets and bryce, but they are here to stay and the
shelves and their contents are going away, so its not even remotely fair to
compare the two and say they have different designs and coexist poorly.
I don't think I did. Perhaps I worded it badly.
They aren't meant to coexist. The former is a replacement for the latter.
OK, thanks. That wasn't clear to me. Presumably Bryce offers the same
facilities (application icons you can click on).
Again gadgets are not added to the shelf.
Out of curiosity, how did the existing built-in ones get there? There
*is* a menu: right-click on (eg) clock, and pick Shelf > Contents and
you get a menu of things you can add to the shelf. Perhaps those objects
aren't called Gadgets.
You add them to the bryce. The bryce is a shelf replacement.
That sounds fine. I've no problems replacing one with the other so long
as they do the same thing or better.
Left click on the desktop, and click add
bryce and that will bring up something resembling your "shelf".
No quotes needed...it *is* a shelf. It identifies itself as one.
Alt right
click it and hit add gadgets. You are obviously welcome to use whatever
features or software e has to offer and best of luck to you.
Is it possible to add application icons to a bryce, or is it for gadgets
only? The existing shelf has something called an iBar, which is where
application icons sit.
Thanks for your help.
///Peter
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