Hi,

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Daniel P. Berrange <d...@berrange.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 06:05:53PM +0200, Jehan Pagès wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Daniel P. Berrange <d...@berrange.com> 
>> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 04:50:48PM +0200, Jehan Pagès wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> So I know about the shortcuts <>,. and these are great. But what is
>> >> the focus mode exactly? I read in the list: "One shot", "AI focus" and
>> >> "AI servo" (at least for my Canon, I imagine these are
>> >> camera-specific). As far as I know, these are all automatic focus
>> >> modes. When are they ever used?
>> >
>> > Somewhat misleadingly, to use the gphoto manual focus actions
>> > your camera needs to be in an autofocus mode. Basically the
>> > manual focus steps  are simply driving the autofocus motor
>> > by a fixed amount.
>> >
>> > The 'a' key shortcut will do a fully automatic auto-focus
>> > operation.
>>
>> Ok just tested the a shortcut. Well it seems to work but with a few
>> problems (still Canon EOS 50D):
>>
>> 1) it works only the first time after going to preview mode. If I move
>> the camera and the center is out of focus, it won't refocus. This is
>> maybe normal, and actually I would find the opposite annoying. But
>> just stating to be sure of the expected behaviour.
>>
>> But especially after this first autofocus, even when clicking again
>> 'a' it won't autofocus again. The only way to force a new autofocus is
>> to get out of preview mode, then back in, then 'a' again.
>> I imagine this one is not expected behaviour, is it?
>
> I have an idea of what the bug might be there, so I'll look into
> it.
>
>> 2) I can clearly hear the shutter closing/opening while autofocusing.
>> Is it normal or even needed? Can't the autofocus happen during preview
>> mode?
>
> That is strange - at least with my Nikon that does not happen.
> Unfortunately my Canon 450D doesn't support autofocus at all
>
> Perhaps try it in the gphoto2 shell eg
>
>  # gphoto2 --auto-detect --shell
>  > capture-preview
>  > set-config /main/actions/autofocusdrive=1
>  > set-config /main/actions/manualfocusdrive=6
>  > set-config /main/actions/manualfocusdrive=0
>  > set-config /main/actions/autofocusdrive=1
>
> and see if the same behaviour occurs.

I'll try later. I don't have access to my camera right now.

>> >> Also there is this option "Display focus point during preview". All it
>> >> does is adding some red "target" icon in the middle of the preview.
>> >> But is this used in anyway? As I said before, I don't think I ever saw
>> >> Entangle auto-focusing my image, so I thought that maybe the color of
>> >> the target would change at some point to tell me this center point is
>> >> focuses, or something. But not even. It is just always desperatly red.
>> >> What is the point of this focus point? Has it a purpose other than
>> >> displaying a target?
>> >
>> > Since gphoto does not let us choose the autofocus point the camera
>> > uses, the only point of the focus point rendering is as a center
>> > point for positioning your shot.
>>
>> This is a very annoying limitation, in my opinion. Do we know if this
>> is a limitation of gphoto, or is it a limitation from the available
>> interface given by camera makers?
>
> I'm not sure where the limitation comes. Conceivably it could be from
> either place. I don't suppose you know if Canon's own capture software
> allows the focus point to be chosen ?  If Canon's software can do it,
> then the limitation would be gphoto2, but if canon's software cannot
> do it, then the limitation is the camera.

Well I suppose there is no Linux version of the Canon software. So no,
I never tried.
I could try and install the official software in my Windows VM though.
I hope it is downloadable on their website.

Jehan

> Daniel
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