on 1/8/04 11:41 PM, Julian Vrieslander at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On 1/8/04 9:07 PM, "Charlie Fritzius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> on 1/8/04 8:55 PM, jud spencer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1/8/04 8:50 PM, "Julian Vrieslander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've tried many variations of the IMAP settings for my work account on the
>>>> server at U of Washington (UW-IMAP, natch).  Right now I've got a config
>>>> that works OK most of the time.  But even though the traffic in this
>>>> account
>>>> is very low (maybe 5 messages per day), I still get corruption in my client
>>>> database every few weeks, requiring advanced rebuild to fix.
>>> 
>>> Hmm., I use a UW-IMAP implementation as well and don't have any problems of
>>> the sort. I will say that the UW implementation is perhaps the worst that I
>>> have seen.
>> 
>> While I do understand this statement and tend to agree, I find if very odd
>> that UW-IMAP's implementation of IMAP is so bad. After all, THEY INVENTED
>> IMAP! Why can't they get IMAP right!?!? It just boggles the mind...
> 
> The UW-IMAP developers apparently feel that the problems are in Entourage.
> Here is a quote from a website maintained by the UW Computing and Networking
> Group:
> 
> <http://www.washington.edu/imap/IMAP-FAQs/>
> 
>>>>>> 
> 7.39 Why doesn't Entourage work at all?
> It's hard to know. Entourage breaks almost every rule in the book for IMAP.
> It is highly instructive to do a packet trace on Entourage, as an example of
> how _not_ to use IMAP. It does things like STATUS (MESSAGES) on the
> currently selected mailbox and re-fetching the same static data over and
> over again.
> 
> It seems that every time we understand what it is doing wrong in Entourage
> and come up with a workaround, we learn about something else that's broken.
> 
> Try building imapd with the ENTOURAGE_BRAIN_DAMAGE option set, in order to
> disable the diagnostic that occurs when doing STATUS on the currently
> selected mailbox.
>>>>>> 

Yes, I've seen this before but according to this:
<http://www.washington.edu/imap/IMAP-FAQs/#7.38>

The "Microsoft Brain Damage" option has been removed as of imap-2002.

I just hope this is better in Entourage 2004!

-Charlie


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