We've been working closely with UW - they've provided us with some very
useful feedback. I think we've made some good progress towards getting the
braindamaged part out of their faq :)

On 1/9/04 1:18:14 PM, "Charlie Fritzius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on 1/8/04 11:41 PM, Julian Vrieslander at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> On 1/8/04 9:07 PM, "Charlie Fritzius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> on 1/8/04 8:55 PM, jud spencer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 1/8/04 8:50 PM, "Julian Vrieslander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I've tried many variations of the IMAP settings for my work account on the
>>>>> server at U of Washington (UW-IMAP, natch).  Right now I've got a config
>>>>> that works OK most of the time.  But even though the traffic in this
>>>>> account
>>>>> is very low (maybe 5 messages per day), I still get corruption in my
>>>>> client
>>>>> database every few weeks, requiring advanced rebuild to fix.
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm., I use a UW-IMAP implementation as well and don't have any problems of
>>>> the sort. I will say that the UW implementation is perhaps the worst that I
>>>> have seen.
>>> 
>>> While I do understand this statement and tend to agree, I find if very odd
>>> that UW-IMAP's implementation of IMAP is so bad. After all, THEY INVENTED
>>> IMAP! Why can't they get IMAP right!?!? It just boggles the mind...
>> 
>> The UW-IMAP developers apparently feel that the problems are in Entourage.
>> Here is a quote from a website maintained by the UW Computing and Networking
>> Group:
>> 
>> <http://www.washington.edu/imap/IMAP-FAQs/>
>> 
>>>>>>> 
>> 7.39 Why doesn't Entourage work at all?
>> It's hard to know. Entourage breaks almost every rule in the book for IMAP.
>> It is highly instructive to do a packet trace on Entourage, as an example of
>> how _not_ to use IMAP. It does things like STATUS (MESSAGES) on the
>> currently selected mailbox and re-fetching the same static data over and
>> over again.
>> 
>> It seems that every time we understand what it is doing wrong in Entourage
>> and come up with a workaround, we learn about something else that's broken.
>> 
>> Try building imapd with the ENTOURAGE_BRAIN_DAMAGE option set, in order to
>> disable the diagnostic that occurs when doing STATUS on the currently
>> selected mailbox.
>>>>>>> 
> 
> Yes, I've seen this before but according to this:
> <http://www.washington.edu/imap/IMAP-FAQs/#7.38>
> 
> The "Microsoft Brain Damage" option has been removed as of imap-2002.
> 
> I just hope this is better in Entourage 2004!
> 
> -Charlie
> 


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