On 8/15/04 10:29 AM, "Frederico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> 
>> Did you try Paul Berkowitz's "Account & Signature Shortcuts" script for
>> this?  It's very handy for this purpose.
>> <http://www.scriptbuilders.net/category.php?search=Signature+Shortcuts>
> 
> Yes, it's interesting, and effective for some, but it's a great big annoying
> kludge 

Oh, yes? It's annoying? Very sorry. What's the most annoying part? That it
exists at all?

> where proper adherence to Mac OS behavior should have been in the
> first place. That I should be expected to go find and install an obscure
> third party script,

What exactly makes it "obscure"? I'm quite well known as a scripter of
Entourage, as it happens. Microsoft publicizes http://macscripter.net as a
source for Entourage scripts in several places, including MacTopia and the
online Help and the official Entourage blog, and it's also linked from the
MVP Entourage website, which is _also_ publicized by MacTopia and the Help.
Once you go there once, it's no longer "obscure", if it ever was. You can
hardly expect Microsoft to give every script every written an official stamp
of approval, since then everyone and his brother could start suing them if
some 3rd-party script misbehaved. Mine don't.

> then go find some third party OSAX,

I could include it in the folder, in fact. The idea was to try to save
download size. Some of my scripts even install scripting additions for you.
Would that make you better disposed to accepting something that actually
does what you say you want?

> then go through a
> tedious process of generating a script for every account I have (see above),
> plus remember to regenerate a new script anytime I create a new account,
> then assign (and remember) a keystroke for each one, is just insane when

You seem to manage to get to the edges of "insane" all by yourself, if I may
say so. ;-)  Well, "rabid", at any rate.

> some simple, standard programming behavior would have allowed me to Tab to
> the account popup, press 'Return', press the first letter or two of the
> account name or at least arrow key my way through the menu, press 'Return'
> again and I'm done.

I don't know where you get the idea that every single mini-feature that you
can imagine wanting should be included. If enough people want it, MS will
often include it in a later version. There's nothing very unusual about
that. Entourage is a huge, complex application. It can't possibly include
absolutely everything everyone might possibly want. They have a pretty good
record of adding new features in later versions. If you know of some other
application that does  everything you want, use that instead. Maybe you
don't even want all the PIM features (calendar, tasks, projects) etc. and
would be happier with a different email program? Frankly, I don't know a
better one, but perhaps you do. You seem to have this sense of grievance -
Microsoft MUST provide you with everything you want - NOW. What nonsense.

In the meantime, Entourage does provide an excellent way of customizing the
application to suit many wishes: its AppleScript implementation is
outstanding. The mistake (of Apple's, really), was the presumption that
"everybody" could write their own AppleScripts. Everybody can't. However
there are several of us who can, and who have - for some reason - been quite
willing to provide scripts that fill the customization gaps when asked.
Virtually all of my Entourage scripts - over 100 at last count - were
written in response to requests of "Why can't I?" asked on this mailing list
or the news group. I only use about 5 or so of my own scripts on a regular
basis. Fortunately, most people who want the features are grateful for the
ability to fulfill them. Then there are people like you., who seem resentful
and dyspeptic that I would even presume to provide a solution. It has to be
Microsoft or no one, right?

In Tiger, OS 10.4, there is going to be a brand new technology you may have
read about: "Automator". If enough people (like me, or even Microsoft)
provide enough Automator "actions", you will in fact be able to do your own
customizations really easily - what AppleScript was meant to do in the first
place.

But you don't want to hear any of this, right? You just want Microsoft to
provide you with your own new version, for free, by 5 PM this evening,
incorporating every feature you can think of. Now.

> God I get so sick of hearing that excuse. How many other industries are
> allowed to raise that dirty flag and make us cower, as though we're to blame
> for the dirt ourselves. How many other industries can get away with building
> defective products they have no obligation to fix, and people just keep
> coming back for more, hoping they can buy their way clean. One day I hope
> that software users as a whole gather together and say, 'Enough. we've paid
> you for a fully functional product, and you're not getting another dime out
> of us until you fix what you sold us and it performs as promised, intended
> and expected.'


OK, now we're talking. Where did you see that Microsoft ever promised you
shortcuts for changing accounts? Put up or shut up. Or reduce your noise
level to asking a little more politely for new features you might want. I
don't see where you get off referring to minor features you'd like added as
if they were bugs, which they're not.


-- 
Paul Berkowitz


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