My 2004 Data file (in Microsoft User Data) is 918 MB. My problem is that
when backing up (I follow my G%'s suggestions of creating a .dmg file) the
file becomes 1,000 MB. Too large for a CD. So I archive it via the Finder
tool bar, and it turns into 463 MB - so I can file it on disk.

My question: what can I do to make the data file smaller and more
manageable? I have been following your discussions, but think I am a few
steps behind in terms of where you guys are starting the debate.

Barbara

G5 Tower, OS 10.3.9

Office 2004 , E'rage 11.1.0


> From: Carsten Ortmann     DR �STJYLLAND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[email protected]>
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:15:29 +0200
> To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[email protected]>
> Subject: SV: How I Lost 30 pounds of excess Entourage weight and kept if off!
> 
> Michael Kobb wrote:
> 
>> Along this topic, I did a little experiment.
>> 
>> I let Mail import my entire Entourage database.
> 
> How did you do that? In a thread on this list I have asked for help doing just
> that. Can you help me?
> 
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P� vegne af Michael J. Kobb
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> Emne: Re: How I Lost 30 pounds of excess Entourage weight and kept if off!
> 
>  Took it several hours, as
> it's quite a large database (~1GB).  I did this in another user account,
> just so it would be easy to purge, but I can't see any reason why I couldn't
> have done it in my regular account.
> 
> Then, I tried using Spotlight to search my database.  FANTASTIC.  Blazing,
> blazing fast.
> 
> I think what I may do at this point is prune my Entourage down to only the
> last 6 months or so, and then try to figure out the easiest way to do this
> import on a periodic basis.
> 
> By the way, I was expecting the create-a-zillion-files approach of the new
> Mail to bloat the size tremendously, but it didn't.  The Mail folder is
> about 980MB, and contains everything that was in Entourage except for my
> deleted items and the calendar and contacts (both of which are pretty minor
> compared to my email).
> 
> Of course, this each-message-is-a-file approach for Mail would also hugely
> speed up incremental backups if I were using Mail as my main client.  If I
> do prune my Erage database, that'll at least help.
> 
> I still greatly prefer Entourage over Mail as a client, but the search
> feature really, really DESPERATELY needs improvement in performance.
> 
> --Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Hi Sequoia,
>> 
>> Two problems with this:  1) I was wrong about the database size, as Paul
>> pointed out, and 2) I made a distinction between removing and deleting
>> attachments which may or may not be valid.  See below.
>> 
>>> 1. Removing attachments is a good idea, but they won't get removed (make the
>>> DB smaller) until DB is compacted.
>> 
>> I'm not sure that the distinction I made between removing and deleting an
>> attachment is valid.  Could someone speak to this please:
>> 
>> If you Remove an attachment (say, to the desktop), does the space it
>> occupied in the database remain "occupied"?  IOW, is Removing an attachment
>> effectively the same as Deleting it, where the database is concerned?  IOW,
>> to reclaim the space previously occupied by Removing an attachment, is it
>> necessary to do a Compact (just like if you Deleted it)?
>> 
>>> 2. DB has a limit of 4 gigs, or 1 million objects (and objects include many
>>> other things besides emails and attachments)
>> 
>> DB has no size limit in terms of gigs; as for number of objects, see Paul's
>> explanation.
>> 
>> Sorry for the confusion.
>> 
>> Beth
>> 
> 
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