On 4/16/07 7:54 AM, "Barbara Alfors" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The Mailing List Rules I had been using in Entourage X had even less of a
> success rate than custom rules, so I stopped using them in favor of rules
> for certain mailing lists. I haven't found a fix.  I hope that the
> suggestions in Diane's message work for you, but none of the things she
> mentioned helped in my case.

This is surprising to me. The Mailing List Manager is pretty easy to set up
compared to custom rules. Other than making a MLM rule when selecting "this
is junk" I rarely see reports of problems with the MLM rules.

Here is the advice I give to users that are having problems with rules:

Having an up to date Address Book is key to managing your mail
and using rules. Assign a category to every entry in your Address Book. You
can select using command-select to quickly add a lot of entries to one
category.

Let's say you have no custom rules created. You have a ton of mail in your
Inbox and Junk folder . If it's in your Junk folder and it's good mail,
select "This is not junk" and add the entry to your Address Book.
[IMPORTANT]

Next, let's deal with your list mail in your Inbox. Select a list message
and open the MLM . Select the folder destination. Under the Advanced tab, I
like to uncheck "Do not apply rules to list messages". I use a VIP rule to
mark messages from the "knowledgeable" contributors so I make sure not to
miss their posts. 
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/get_started/index.html#tip15>

After you create your Mailing List Manager rule, run All rules to remove
list mail from your Inbox. Continue with all of your list mail. This will
leave you with personal mail.

Select the first personal message in your Inbox. Can this message be sorted
by a category like Work, Buddy, Family, Announcements, Newsletters? If yes,
then assign a category to the email and set a rule.

My Buddy Rule:

>From is in category Buddy
Is not in a mailing list

Move to folder Buddy
Run AppleScript  Play sound (I like to use this action so I can hear when I
get mail from my buddies)

Look through other email in the Inbox and see if there are other emails
there from Buddies. Assign categories to these if you haven't assigned in
your Address Book  and run "All Rules". This will move all buddy mail from
your Inbox. 

Take the next message, create a rule. Use Categories instead of individual
addresses. If you add extra addresses in the future to this category, the
rule using category will automatically include the new address. It's a lot
easier than having to open the rule and add individual addresses.

Run all rules and see if it works, If not then adjust the rule so it does
work. By doing this you will find the broken rule as you go.

FWIW, adding domain names to the Junk Mail Filter isn't fool proof. You can
also copy these to archive by selecting all under Safe domains.

I suggest adding a rule "from is me". This will get your legitimate mail you
test send to yourself and not the fake spam that is sent from you. I like
the first example. Not many spammers use Entourage as their client.  :-)

<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/rules/example/rule012.html>

Hope this helps.


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