Darrian, Kouta,

I also would like to see a global variety of ENTS.  The way things are however 
is that people are more interested in general to their own areas than they are 
globally.  I am interested in trees all over, but many are not.  If we want 
ENTS to be come globally important, then how do we get people from other areas 
to join when our focus is generally the eastern US?  I added some sub groups to 
the Primal Forests site to serve perhaps as an on ramp or a forum to get 
started. But I really don't know what else to do.  I have compiles a larger 
list of web links for Europe to post on the ENTS site (when my computer is 
fixed) maybe this will attract some interest when people do web searches.  What 
else can I do or we do?

Ed

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darian Copiz 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:56 PM
  Subject: [ENTS] Re: European Native Tree Society


  All,

  I'm not heavily involved so I'm slightly hesitatant to say it, but I have to 
second this notion.  ENTS already discusses trees around the world as is 
exemplified in the recent discussions on European trees, but has also discussed 
tall trees of Asia and Austrailia.  I'm pretty sure we've seen Baobabs of 
Africa in email discussions as well.

  I think anyone would be hard pressed to find any organization (in the world) 
that could compete with ENTS in being THE authority on measuring trees.  We 
already discuss trees worldwide.  Almost anytime I go traveling overseas I look 
up information on significant trees and forests in the location I'm going to.  
It is often difficult to find anything.  It would be very nice to be able to go 
to the ENTS site and have this information as conveniently availalbe as it is 
for the Eastern United States.  An additional item is that although French 
speakers may be loathe to admit it, English is now the international language 
and would be most appropriate for global discussion.

  Regardless of the location, the "native" aspect still has importance.  It 
places a greater level of significance on forests and trees that naturally 
occur on a site - so I don't think removing "native" would be necessary.  It 
might sound a little hippyish, but Earth Native Tree Society would retain 
"ENTS" as a name.

  For what it's worth, that's my two cents.

  Darian


  On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Kouta Räsänen <[email protected]> 
wrote:


    James & Ed,

    James, it makes me glad that someone of the American ENTS thinks like
    you!

    Changing global by widening ENTS, rather than starting new groups, has
    the advantage, that ENTS works already and is already interesting and
    has varied member base. For example, if I want to write something
    about trees, I choose ENTS, because so I get more readers. James
    wrote: "Could ENTS itself be represented on a server such as Ning";
    maybe also this possibility could be considered. The "Groups" idea of
    Ning is good, but I find the website somehow confused.

    It is, of course, your decision, if you want to expand or remain
    eastern American. If more ENTS prefered to expand, perhaps you could
    talk about it, for example, in your Congaree meeting.

    I will add Primal Forests to Wikipedia, hopefully it attracts new
    members, and hopefully nobody deletes it.

    > ENTS could also
    > stand for Earth Native Tree Society.

    If this utopia will some day come true, we must remember that James
    Parton said it first!

    Kouta





  


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