Steve
I think Paul Jost has about said it all. We can never know what
Paul Thompson had in mind, but it does seem fishy. Far, far too many
Michigan trees were badly mismeasured.
Those of us who came to recognize just how often mismeasured
trees were appearing in the National Register of Big Trees, attempted
to work with American Forests. We made a little headway, but nowhere
near enough. There are reasons why. But basically, ENTS took a
different path. Our obsession over accuracy is justified.
Bob
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On Oct 28, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Steve Galehouse <[email protected]>
wrote:
> ENTS-
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> After reading the posts concerning tree heights in Michigan, is it
> safe to assume heights of trees were intentionally exaggerated(not
> just mis-measured) by certain individuals?
>
> Steve
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> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Barry Caselli <[email protected]
> > wrote:
> I received that and read it. That's partly why I said that it's all
> good now.
> Very interesting reading. Amazing that they had the heights so badly
> screwed up.
>
> --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Jost <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Paul Jost <[email protected]>
>
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Marquette, Michigan white pines
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 4:56 AM
>
>
> I sent a longer reply with more information on this yesterday. It's
> on the google groups web site but apparently didn't get out to
> everyone for some reason.
>
> PJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barry Caselli
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:29 PM
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Marquette, Michigan white pines
>
> Oh okay. Thanks.
>
> --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Andrew Joslin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Andrew Joslin <[email protected]>
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Marquette, Michigan white pines
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 4:53 AM
>
>
> The tallest of the two, the alleged former champ.
> -AJ
>
> Barry Caselli wrote:
> > This is the second message in a row in which the sender said "this
> > tree", when there were actually two of them. Which one is dead?
> >
> > --- On *Thu, 10/22/09, Will Blozan /<[email protected]>/*
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Will Blozan <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [ENTS] Re: Marquette, Michigan white pines
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 3:59 AM
> >
> > Andrew,
> >
> > This tree is dead- it fell a while ago. The height, as expected,
> > was WAY off. More like 135-140. Lee is familiar with the grove I
> > think.
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
> ---
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* Andrew Joslin <[email protected]>
> > *To:* [email protected]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:32:06 PM
> > *Subject:* [ENTS] Marquette, Michigan white pines
> >
> >
> > Hello ENTS,
> > Apologies if this has been covered in the past, a friend sent
> this
> > record to me from Michigan. Was this or is this a valid
> measurement?
> > Probably from the American Forests database, I looked through
> it and
> > couldn't find much except a large diameter white pine in
> Maine. I
> > gather
> > that a measurement made (by whatever means) in 1984 may not
> mean much
> > now, for instance are the trees still standing?
> > -AJ
> >
> > COMMON NAME EASTERN WHITE PINE
> > SCIENTIFIC NAME PINUS STROBUS
> > LOCATION MARQUETTE, MICHIGAN (BOTH)
> > NOMINATOR PAUL THOMPSON (BOTH)
> > MOST RECENT MEASUREMENT 1984 (BOTH)
> >
> > CO-CHAMPIONS:
> >
> > CIRCUMFERENCE AT 4 1/2 FT. 186 IN. 202 IN.
> > HEIGHT 201 FT. 181 FT.
> > CROWN SPREAD 52 FT. 64 FT.
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> > TOTAL POINTS 400 399
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