Seems like there must have been some Michigan/Ohio State rivalries going on in the forestry/botany departments ;)
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Bob <[email protected]> wrote: > Steve > > I think Paul Jost has about said it all. We can never know what Paul > Thompson had in mind, but it does seem fishy. Far, far too many Michigan > trees were badly mismeasured. > Those of us who came to recognize just how often mismeasured trees > were appearing in the National Register of Big Trees, attempted to work with > American Forests. We made a little headway, but nowhere near enough. There > are reasons why. But basically, ENTS took a different path. Our obsession > over accuracy is justified. > > Bob > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 28, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Steve Galehouse <[email protected]> > wrote: > > ENTS- > > After reading the posts concerning tree heights in Michigan, is it safe to > assume heights of trees were intentionally exaggerated(not just > mis-measured) by certain individuals? > > Steve > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Barry Caselli < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I received that and read it. That's partly why I said that it's all good >> now. >> Very interesting reading. Amazing that they had the heights so badly >> screwed up. >> >> --- On *Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Jost < <[email protected]>[email protected]>*wrote: >> >> >> From: Paul Jost < <[email protected]>[email protected]> >> >> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Marquette, Michigan white pines >> To: <[email protected]>[email protected] >> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 4:56 AM >> >> >> I sent a longer reply with more information on this yesterday. It's on >> the google groups web site but apparently didn't get out to everyone for >> some reason. >> >> PJ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Barry >> Caselli<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> *To:* >> <http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:29 PM >> *Subject:* [ENTS] Re: Marquette, Michigan white pines >> >> Oh okay. Thanks. >> >> --- On *Tue, 10/27/09, Andrew Joslin >> <<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: Andrew Joslin >> <<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Marquette, Michigan white pines >> To: >> <http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 4:53 AM >> >> >> The tallest of the two, the alleged former champ. >> -AJ >> >> Barry Caselli wrote: >> > This is the second message in a row in which the sender said "this >> > tree", when there were actually two of them. Which one is dead? >> > >> > --- On *Thu, 10/22/09, Will Blozan >> > /<<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected]>/* wrote: >> > >> > >> > From: Will Blozan >> > <<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> > Subject: [ENTS] Re: Marquette, Michigan white pines >> > To: >> <http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 3:59 AM >> > >> > Andrew, >> > >> > This tree is dead- it fell a while ago. The height, as expected, >> > was WAY off. More like 135-140. Lee is familiar with the grove I >> > think. >> > >> > Will >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > *From:* Andrew Joslin >> > <<http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> > *To:* >> <http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:32:06 PM >> > *Subject:* [ENTS] Marquette, Michigan white pines >> > >> > >> > Hello ENTS, >> > Apologies if this has been covered in the past, a friend sent this >> > record to me from Michigan. Was this or is this a valid measurement? >> > Probably from the American Forests database, I looked through it and >> > couldn't find much except a large diameter white pine in Maine. I >> > gather >> > that a measurement made (by whatever means) in 1984 may not mean >> much >> > now, for instance are the trees still standing? >> > -AJ >> > >> > COMMON NAME EASTERN WHITE PINE >> > SCIENTIFIC NAME PINUS STROBUS >> > LOCATION MARQUETTE, MICHIGAN (BOTH) >> > NOMINATOR PAUL THOMPSON (BOTH) >> > MOST RECENT MEASUREMENT 1984 (BOTH) >> > >> > CO-CHAMPIONS: >> > >> > CIRCUMFERENCE AT 4 1/2 FT. 186 IN. 202 IN. >> > HEIGHT 201 FT. 181 FT. >> > CROWN SPREAD 52 FT. 64 FT. >> > >> > TOTAL POINTS 400 399 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
