Randy- I'll re-measure, hopefully this week---I'm planning to take photos of the common junipers that are a few miles north of Sand Run, and will try to get to both locations. If the beech is "only" 127.6, it's still a real nice tree.
Steve On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Randy Brown <[email protected]>wrote: > All, > > I've gone back through my notes on this beech tree. We shot the tree > from the point of the view in the picture. The lower site line was 2˚ > @ 76.5 yards = 8.01'. Normally you add the lower site line because > the base of the tree is almost always below your eye point when > shooting on 'level ground'. However, as you can see in the picture of > the tree, the base is actually uphill from the shooter. The > foreshortening of the zoom lense of the camera makes this more > noticeable than it was in person. I think there is a reasonable > chance we should be subtracting 8' instead of adding, giving one > 127.6'. I think we need to withdraw this number until this tree can > be remeasured. > > Sorry Guys, > > On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Jess Riddle wrote: > > > Steve, > > > > Beech rarely dominant sites in the southeast, except at high > > elevations. It does occur scattered at multiple sites with 170' > > tuliptrees, but still struggles to reach 120'. I've never been to a > > tall tree site where beech was the second tallest species. > > > > It would be great to see some black maple numbers from a fertile site. > > > > Jess > > > > > > > > On 11/15/09, Steve Galehouse <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Steve Galehouse <[email protected]> > >> Date: Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:32 PM > >> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Sand Run revisited > >> To: [email protected] > >> > >> > >> Jess, ENTS- > >> > >> I didn't realize the beech was that exceptional---its height must > >> be due to > >> its location in the valley and competition with the tuliptrees; I > >> think > >> Randy measured the circumference also. I'm no sure how frequent a > >> tuliptree/beech association is in the south, but tulips are by far > >> the > >> predominant tree in this area, followed by beech. The latitude is N > >> 41' 08. > >> The aspect of the site was that of a relatively young forest in > >> vigorous > >> growth, with most trees having tall, straight, clean boles(see red > >> oak > >> photo), with hardly any gnarl factor, other than the 157' tulip in > >> the > >> earlier photo. The soils and topography must greatly influence the > >> growth > >> potential. > >> > >> Other measured trees were a bitternut hickory at 123.7', red oak at > >> 124.7', > >> slippery elm at 121', white ash at 123', and sycamore at 121.95'. > >> As I > >> mentioned earlier, sugar/black maples were relatively scarce, but > >> in the > >> 120' range. The canopy height in a general sense was 120-130'. > >> Most of the > >> mature tulips were 130-140'. Other nice trees were black and white > >> oaks, and > >> basswood, which I plan to measure later this year, as well as > >> hemlock which > >> are in a different area of the park. > >> > >> > >> Attached are a Rucker height index, which will likely increase with > >> different species, and a few more photos. > >> > >> > >> Tuliptree 158.1 8'4'' N 41' 08.030 W > >> 81' 33.697 > >> Bitternut Hickory 123.7 > >> Red Oak 124.7 N 41' 07.986 W 81' > >> 33.728 > >> Slippery Elm 121 > >> American Beech 143.6 > >> White Ash 123 > >> Sycamore 121.95 > >> Walnut 106 > >> Butternut 95 > >> Cottonwood 124 > >> > >> R.I. Height 124.1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Eastern Native Tree Society > >> http://www.nativetreesociety.org > >> Send email to [email protected] > >> Visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > >> To unsubscribe send email to > >> [email protected]<entstrees%[email protected]> > >> > > > > -- > > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > > Send email to [email protected] > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > > To unsubscribe send email to > > [email protected]<entstrees%[email protected]> > > -- > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > Send email to [email protected] > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > To unsubscribe send email to > [email protected]<entstrees%[email protected]> > -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected]
