On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Jim Davis wrote:
> I'm thinking though, that to be fair, if a photographer puts his webpage
> address in a sig block, and he makes money through that webpage, would not
> that constitute commercial content? I see lots of photogs on here that do
No. Sorry, but I think (this is my view, not WJM's - which might be
different. But what ever it is, I'm 100% behind him. No-one has been
better in running a good list than him - and Janne before him)... oh yes,
I think it's pretty much how you present the web-paga. I'll use your
example:
> -- PhOTo - vOYAGe - GrAPhiSMe --
> Portail : http://perso.magic.fr/drocha
Now, if this was in the end of some email, then I'd understand this as his
personal web-page. I don't understand what the line with "-- ..." means.
If that tells you there are stuff to be sold on the web-page, then I'm
wrong. But to me this doesn't look like he/she is selling something to me.
Now if he/she would have written "get 20% of my pictures at http:...
today" or "buy my pictures at http..." then it would be different thing.
BTW, signatures are definitely part of the message. They are transmitted
to thousands of people with what ever is on them. So if they have adds,
then that's add sent to thousands of people. On the List rules (everybody
has seen these right? so why do I feel I have to remind you of these
again?) it says at 4.2. "What can I post to the List?" the following:
"Advertising for commercial purposes is NOT allowed." How much clearer can
one put that?
> Let's face it we all like to do a little plug for our photo business if
> we have one - if the plug is for some credit thingy, it doesn't bother me as
> long as it's small.
Any size bothers me, but personal web-pages could be allowed imho. If
somebody sells something on their personal web-page, then that's something
else. If it was not adverticed so in the email. If you went to the page,
you probably went there because you wanted to know something about the
other person. If all he want's to do is to sell you stuff, then fine - as
long as he does it on his page and not on this email list. (Some cases
could be a bit tricky... somebody working for xyz-photo could put
"Personal web-pages at http://www.xyz-photo.com/" even though that was
clearly the homepage of the company and therefore agains the rules... but
even then he would not be selling me anything in the email. And of course,
if somebody sees that they could ask the person to change that to comply
with the rules.)
Terv,
Hugo.
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