Hi!

On 10/1/05, Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The 1Ds and 5D are 3-4 years apart. How much development has taken
> place in the field of digital cameras, sensors, and image processors
> during that time? A LOT!!!

A lot yes! ... but I'm not sure where I see that in these cameras.

> So... What would you get with a used 1Ds? Slow start-up time (roughly

If you are talking about the time from switching from off to on
position, then you might be right. This is no problem for me. But once
the camera is on, then the time lag before taking a picture is about
nothing. At least that's the way it seemed for me.

> Old image processor. What you do get is probably better auto focus.

Old image processor... or the other way around, EOS 5D has a new image
processor. So what? What is the difference? If I'm not mistaken,
Digital Ixus has the same DIGIC II processor (or what ever it was). I
know the processor is much better... but how does it show in the
photos - that I do not know.

> The 45-point system of the 1-series bodies is pretty cool. But I

The 45-point system is great (I have EOS 3). And actually the 9-point
system in EOS 5D seems a little stupid... I would mostly like to have
seen the perimeter points of the 45-point system, not the funny setup
they put there. I actually use the points close to the corners a lot.
But I think I could live with EOS 5D's points.

> Even with the 45 points in the 1Ds, the system is very center biased.

But there are those points closer to the corners.

> What else do you get... Oh, yeah... The weather sealing. Has anybody
> ever had problems shooting outside with a normal body? I haven't. None

Ah, this has not been a problem for me.

> When I thought about getting a used 1Ds, I sat down and calculated the
> weight of a 1Ds kit versus the weight of my first medium format kit

The weight is one of the plusses for EOS 5D definitely.

> In my opinion, the choice is clear. Get the 5D... Well, unless you are

So far, all I got is that it is lighter and has newer technology -
which is unclear what difference it makes.

> Regarding depreciation: A camera is not an investment. It will not

Definitely not.

> buying a camera only because it will depreciate less over the next 2-3
> years, then I think you are buying it for the wrong reason.

No, it's just one of the reasons. The film cameras (I still have) have
not gone down in features during all these years. But these digital
ones will seem to do so. (Like you said, EOS 5D is better technically,
even if you can not provide any samples where that would show.) And
that means, I will have the urge to buy a better camera in a few
years. And I would then be selling the current camera. So, yes it is
one reason behind the camera now.

One serious choise is to buy the least expensive digital EOS and
consider that to be lost money and then buy another camera in 2
years... but I'd hate the 350D. Although, I can not see any reason why
to buy 20D over that...

> time. It's my impression that the prices drop to 50 % of original
> value at the first follow-up model release. I don't have enough

That is probably true in this digital age.

> this, I'd guess the depreciation of a used 1Ds and a new 5D would be
> roughly the same over a 2-3 year period. If you wait six months to buy

That's what I'm also thinking. As in 2-3 years they both will seem
quite dated, but with very similar features... (except that 1Ds will
have better features and 5D will still be lighter)

> the 5D (especially, if you can wait until after the first price drop)
> then I think the 5D will depreciate less than a used 1Ds over a 2-3
> year period.

That is probably true also. Except that I think the street price for
EOS 5D is already so low, that they do not need to drop the price at
all until they really get any competition.

--
HG.
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