Axioms are used in Math and likely theology. He uses unproven assumptions AS IF they are real. Has anybody researched when facts were first used in the way they are now? I wrote a spoof on facts which went the way of a lead balloon. It's a question of truth by authority vs authority by truth. Onelook: axiom: (logic) a proposition that is not susceptible of proof or disproof; its truth is assumed to be self-evident. noun: a saying that widely accepted on its own merits.: The material hypothesis is no longer accepted widely. When Sam uses"given" he alludes to using axioms. But he is not even aware of that. I wonder is he aware he feels threatened, by what?
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain ""If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything. Mark Twain ""Sacred cows make the best hamburger. Mark Twain ""Only presidents, editors and people with tapeworm have the right to use the editorial 'we'. Mark Twain (1835-1910) " So now, Athenian men, more than on my own behalf must I defend myself, as some may think, but on your behalf, so that you may not make a mistake concerning the gift of god by condemning me. For if you kill me, you will not easily find another such person at all, even if to say in a ludicrous way, attached on the city by the god, like on a large and well-bred horse, by its size and laziness both needing arousing by some gadfly; in this way the god seems to have fastened me on the city, some such one who arousing and persuading and reproaching each one of you I do not stop the whole day settling down all over." Socrates That was probably written by Plato, as Socrates never set down anything in writing. I doubt the City Fathers who made S drink Hemlock would let him make a speech. ornamentalmind wrote: > Perhaps 'facts' = axioms??? > > On Sep 7, 11:55 pm, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What, to dish it out one dribble at a time, Is immensely sad is that this >> sectarianism has been >> going on for a Century or more and is not comming to a closure. >> adrian >> >> >> >> adrf wrote: >>> What we have going in this group is a rather nasty dose of factionalism. >>> Materialists vs >>> idealists. AND WHO names the idealists? the materialists. Hence >>> antidisestblishmenarianism. >>> ALL< if I may say so, rather puerile. Supercalifragilisticexpialodotious. >>> NOR very conducive to >>> understanding. >>> adrian. >>> Sam Carana wrote: >>>> With 'facts' I mean \ >>> FINE, just don't try to pejoratise everybody into that. >>> adrian- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
