Did you recognise the saws of Mark Twain are axiomatic? Actually they're better as they are quite unarguable, haha. adrian
adrf wrote: > Axioms are used in Math and likely theology. He uses unproven assumptions AS > IF they are real. > Has anybody researched when facts were first used in the way they are now? I > wrote a spoof on > facts which went the way of a lead balloon. It's a question of truth by > authority vs authority > by truth. > Onelook: axiom: (logic) a proposition that is not susceptible of proof or > disproof; its truth > is assumed to be self-evident. noun: a saying that widely accepted on its > own merits.: > The material hypothesis is no longer accepted widely. When Sam uses"given" he > alludes to using > axioms. But he is not even aware of that. I wonder is he aware he feels > threatened, by what? > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause > and reflect. Mark > Twain > ""If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything. Mark Twain > ""Sacred cows make the best hamburger. Mark Twain > ""Only presidents, editors and people with tapeworm have the right to use the > editorial 'we'. > Mark Twain (1835-1910) > > > " So now, Athenian men, more than on my own behalf must I defend myself, as > some may think, but > on your behalf, so that you may not make a mistake concerning the gift of god > by condemning me. > For if you kill me, you will not easily find another such person at all, even > if to say in a > ludicrous way, attached on the city by the god, like on a large and well-bred > horse, by its > size and laziness both needing arousing by some gadfly; in this way the god > seems to have > fastened me on the city, some such one who arousing and persuading and > reproaching each one of > you I do not stop the whole day settling down all over." Socrates > That was probably written by Plato, as Socrates never set down anything in > writing. I doubt the > City Fathers who made S drink Hemlock would let him make a speech. > > > ornamentalmind wrote: >> Perhaps 'facts' = axioms??? >> >> On Sep 7, 11:55 pm, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> What, to dish it out one dribble at a time, Is immensely sad is that this >>> sectarianism has been >>> going on for a Century or more and is not comming to a closure. >>> adrian >>> >>> >>> >>> adrf wrote: >>>> What we have going in this group is a rather nasty dose of factionalism. >>>> Materialists vs >>>> idealists. AND WHO names the idealists? the materialists. Hence >>>> antidisestblishmenarianism. >>>> ALL< if I may say so, rather puerile. Supercalifragilisticexpialodotious. >>>> NOR very conducive to >>>> understanding. >>>> adrian. >>>> Sam Carana wrote: >>>>> With 'facts' I mean \ >>>> FINE, just don't try to pejoratise everybody into that. >>>> adrian- Hide quoted text - >>> - Show quoted text - >>> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
