As I suspected HERE we go again.

Poked "branches of mathematics" into google ANd In the first ten of 5.75 
million websites, I 
got about ten different explanations, The first listed 83 odd by some Math 
Association, with 
the proviso that the categorisation given was not reliable, complete, arguable, 
etc and further 
down Google that it's more or less idle to categorise. Now as words and sets 
are much alike the 
same applies to verbs and figures of thought, long ago admitted as 
not-classifiable. Read it 
yourself. Quite simply some mathematicians know a lot of these branches and 
some hardly any. 
The same further goes for languages entire, cultures and societies. The 
Official version WAS 
Branche, oops families of Sanscrit, with a lot that don't fit. NOW replaced by 
Europe as the 
UR-Mutter which is questionable from recent Siberian archeology, inclusive of a 
pre-flood 
civilisation we may as well call Atlantis, almost, as some commentators avoid 
such 
indelicacies. A book on Amerindian languages & cultures came to the conclusion 
that there's no 
consistent pattern to it.

Avoiding personalities I've long ago suggested that it's politics and 
governments which 
stereotype us in fantasies. It also makes fun of any notion that there is an 
incommon overall 
the same scientific method. That makes it fall under games people play. That 
boils down to 
whatever people can devise and make rules for. Since it is categorically, 
absolutely and 
unconditionally impossible for anybody whatsoever to know all of even current 
knowledge there 
is such a thing as specialisation, reality per se or an sich, etc blahh for 
another hike into 
endless debates. Srinivasa Ramanujan is famed for intuiting a cartload of math 
simply on 
hearing about it, as also happened in the case of some languages. It anybody 
can find any 
logical consistency in that lot, I'll charge them with lots of ignorance. At 
large knowledge 
and all its branches is about as individualistic as people, snowflakes and 
anything else you 
care to propose. I thought of naming criss crossing ideas, tactics, etc and 
gave it up as 
impossible. OR as one Nobel PRize winner said: Anything goes.

What I find remarkable is how people can indulge in the pueristical pastime of 
blame games in 
order to avoid recognising such elementary bits of knowledge as GIVEN above in 
themselves, 
because I'm sure I'll have missed a few points or more. What I found amusing is 
that someone 
wrote that children learn slowly when they are, actually, the fastest 
information soaks around. 
When my son got into the 3 word sentence he used about a 1000 words He'd never 
used before 
before lunch. He was rescripting his thinking. At the risk of arousing 
Einseele's ire once 
more, I collect tricks, methods, tactics, strategies, theories, assumptions and 
more of that 
nonsense and realise he told me it's about alleviating my anxiety, in which 
EINSEELE collects a 
first, probably need another couple of centuries to complete or fill up those 
conceptual boxes, 
if not forever not catching up with the latest out. It's an infinite universe 
and people have 
an infinite potential. What do I mean by infinite? GOOD question. Probably 
anything that won't 
tidy up.

Remember what the Hookah smoker told Alice, so the above is not even original. 
There are so 
many correctors in this group who don't like being outcorrected. Probably a 
first known 
recognition of it comes as the Tower of Babel. How many worms can one find 
under a stone?

adrian



ornamentalmind wrote:
> Thanks George. You have supported what I had guessed.
> 
> On Sep 8, 6:07 am, Georges Metanomski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps 'facts' = axioms???
>> =============
>> Or, perhaps not.
>>
>> Again pops up the axiom-drivel which we have clarified
>> at least 12 times.
>>
>> Let's go for the 13'th.
>> I give you a sporting 1 to 100 that your post will trigger
>> parrots quoting idiotic dictionaries defining Axiom as a
>> truth (whatever it may mean) assumed to be self-evident.
>>
>> Follows the 13th repetition of the clarifying message:
>>
>> Here is the second most discussed axiom in history
>> after the Euclidean of Parallels:
>>
>> <If t is a disjointed set which does not contain
>> the null-set, the Cartesian product Pt is
>> different from the null-set.>
>>
>> Self-evident like goddam hell.
>>
>> Here come other 3 self-evidences:
>>
>> 1.Axiom of Euclides:
>> <Given a line and a point not on the line, it is
>> possible to draw through the point exactly one line
>> parallel to the line>
>>
>> 2.Axiom of Riemann:
>> <Given a line and a point not on the line, it is
>> impossible to draw through the point any line
>> parallel to the line>
>>
>> 3.Axiom of Lobaczevski:
>> <Given a line and a point not on the line, it is
>> possible to draw through the point any number
>> greater than 1 of lines parallel to the line>
>>
>> One wonders which of the above self-evidences is
>> self-evidenter than the others and how can  
>> self-evidences contradict one another.
>>
>> Leaving the drivel we pass to the definition of Axiom
>> such as it appears in contemporary scientific Models,
>> which are ALL axiomatic:
>>
>> Since rational science is born, scientific theories
>> have the structure of inferencing networks.
>>
>> Middle nodes or "Theorems" are deduced from upper
>> neighbors (premises) and induced from lower nodes
>> (conclusions).
>>
>> Top nodes or "Axioms" having no premises cannot be
>> deduced, thus are set arbitrarily by intuition and
>> taken as granted as long as they are not inductively
>> refuted by their conclusions.
>>
>> Bottom nodes or "Facts" having no conclusions cannot
>> be induced and their logical value (certainty) is
>> set empirically.
>>
>> All rational theories are by definition falsifiable,
>> i.e. structured in a way to support bottom-up
>> induction from Facts via Theorems to Axioms, which may
>> eventually refute Axioms and thus the theory.
>>
>> Georges.
>> =============
> > 
> 


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