We also know brain functioning gets screwed when things happen in the wrong temporal order as in face-blindness and that information changes depending on commutative or non-commutative declension. That sort of expands just how much information there may be.
On Mar 25, 4:05 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree intelligence is everywhere. Where does information come from > if we are just brains in vats - not that I'm keen on that old chestnut > or such matters as Putnam's "semantic disproof" of an instance of it. > The realists only insist on the real for what it does in explanation > as against other hypotheses, including acceptance of before human time > and distrust of such argumentive dodges as the world being created in > 4004BC complete with memories and fossil record. I am very unsure > what we prod with out 'sticks' or our attention is attracted to. Some > of our equations work out better if two dimensions of time are > included and all origins turn out to be endlessly deferred, even that > of 'no time' if this universe was created in another. > > On Mar 25, 3:14 am, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mar 24, 4:12 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Once upon a time, 14 - 20 billions years ago, all matter > > > (all elementary particles and all quarks and > > > their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks, > > > all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational, > > > muons… gluons field ….. etc.) – were assembled in a “single point”. > > > Since spacetime is ultimately the same thing, the idea of everything > > being a single point (having zero space) also means there was no time. > > No time means the same thing as all time, which makes sense since > > there is no frame of reference outside of the singularity with which > > to establish any kind of sequence. > > > What I think this *must* mean is that the singularity is not an event > > that happened x billions of years ago, rather it is an event which > > never happened but which is perpetually projected ever further > > backwards. As this happens, space expansion happens within the > > singularity from within rather than the singularity expanding into an > > infinite void. Such a void cannot exist outside of the singularity > > since it is the singularity itself which is creating space and time, > > as well as causality and sequence itself. > > > I call this the 'Big Diffraction', as it is no more an expansion of > > matter into space as it is an ingression of non-matter into the > > singularity. Instead of a cosmology which imagines a hypothetical > > explosion at the dawn of time as viewed from a distance by a generic > > voyeur, we must recognize that this is an impossible perspective as > > the singularity cannot possibly have an exterior. It is not merely an > > innocent way of conceiving a physical event, but actually hopelessly > > confuses the reality of the thing. There was no explosion and no > > expansion. Those are reverse engineered narratives based upon our own > > scales of time, space, density, etc. At the 'time' of the actual > > event, concepts like intensity and magnitude would be inconceivable as > > they had literally not been invented yet. A singularity has no measure > > or frame of reference, it is boundary-less in every sense, as it would > > have to be in order to contain the entire cosmos condensed to a single > > point-event. Within that point, must be all the potential for all > > times and places as well as all mass-energy. > > > > It means that all information also was assembled in a "single point". > > > Not necessarily. Not if information isn't 'real'. I think information > > is subjective. It arises through the enactment of timespace (the > > ingression of the vacuum into the singularity) as sensorimotive > > experience which accumulates as significance. > > > > And then after big bang all particles flew in different sides. > > > # > > > Suppose, that every particle is the owner of some information. > > > Then it was impossible to create Intellect Existence by the chance > > > during as short time as 14 billions years after ‘big bang’. > > > The intelligence could have never appeared by the chances > > > according to Theory of Probability (as per the infinite monkey > > > theorem ). > > > Intelligence is everywhere. Just not human intelligence. > > > Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en.
