----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]----The owner of N-93932 called me today. He and his AI went over the logs and the FAA CD and agreed that the conversion to a 415-D when the C-90 was installed was not done properly. They will be correcting the paperwork to make it a legal D, and then putting back on the market. It would seem like a fine ship for someone with a current medical.
I made a deposit on a nice Taylorcraft that came available locally last week, so I'll be leaving the COOPERS-TECH list. I'll miss being able to slide the canopy all the way open on a good summer day, but the t-craft is also a fun ship to fly.
Again, thanks to all of you for your inciteful comments and advice. It was a great learning experience.
Dan
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----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]----Absolutely! They have all the motivation in the world to find out anything that keeps them from paying. Eliacim Quoting roger anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:I was talking to FSDO today and we both agreed that it's not the FAA anymore that you really need to worry about. It's your insurance company. After the accident, they are going to be looking for anything to make it an uninsured flight. roger ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "roger anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]>; "Dan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] model 415-CD history----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- Having read everybody's comments, I would say that if I were out there buying a sport compliant Ercoupe, I would consider any piece of paper whatsoever (log entry, 337) documenting the change away from C or CD, a deal killer. Sure, some FSDO's would call it sport compliant if the airworthness certificate never changed away from C or CD, but other FSDOs would not. At some point, the inconsistency could cause the FAA to issue a clarification, which could just accept any documentation in record, as evidence of the change. Again, just my humble opinion, if I were looking for one for myself. Everybody has a different tolerance for risk... Eliacim Cortes N87071 415-C 1946 Quoting roger anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- If any aircraft is modified with an STC, and that STC calls for the data plate to be changed to reflect a new model number, then a new airworthiness certificate is needed. If a new airworthiness certificate was not requested however (and it must be requested) , even though the data plate was changed as required, then the FAA would consider that aircraft to be the original model in their records. However, the aircraft would have incorrect paperwork then since data plates and airworthiness certificates must match. Also, aircraft can be changed by STCs that don't change the model number, such as an Aeronca Champ with a "no bounce" gear installed. The Champ remains a 7AC and the 337 may or may not have incresed its gross to 1400 lbs and outside the LSA range. If it was increased although it's still a 7AC, it is no longer and never will be LSA. Same with a Coupe. Regardless of what the airworthiness certificate says, if a 337 was ever submitted after D changes were made and it reflects that the gross weight was increased to 1400 lbs, it is not now or will it ever be LSA. Airworthiness certificates alone don't really mean anything. roger ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Brown Cc: Ctech Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] model 415-CD history ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- Ed Burkhart Wrote: Aircraft Specification A-787 explicitly allows all the postwar 415-C and 415-CD models to be converted to 415-D and be allowed the 1400 lb. gross weight limit. Many have been converted but whether they were done "officially" is open to debate since many of these never got a new airworthiness certificate. The FAA CD has an approved 337 dated 6/4/77 that states "Up graded A/C N-93932 Ercoupe 415C to 415D model by authority of Skyport Aircoupe Service & Ercoupe Service Memorandum SMK-1, SMK48, SMK46 & SMK-3XX" The latest (7/17/56) Airworthiness Certificate in the file has the ship listed as a 415-C. So it appears that there was not a new airworthiness certificate issued after the modification. Where does that leave an pilot who needs to operate the ship as a LSA? The C model is OK, but the D has a gross weight that puts it outside the LSA limits. Dan Brown Annapolis, MD==============================================================================To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm==============================================================================To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.==============================================================================To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm
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