Dan;

You need to taxi less and fly more!

Al DeMarzo
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Hall 
  To: [email protected] ; Mark H. 
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 1:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Re: Nose wheel tires & tubes


  Mark,
  IMHO - there would not be enough difference to worry about, and slight over 
  inflation would probably make even more of a difference than the 4 or 6 ply.

  Al & Harmut
  If I recall correctly, based on what Aviation Consumer reported the tread 
  life and wear of the 6 ply Goodyear Flight Custom III's tires do make enough 
  of a difference to be worth the extra $. However given what AC, Harmut, 
  and you had said, I'll give 4 ply Desser retreads a try next time and see 
  how they compare to the wear and performance I've gotten from the Goodyear 
  Flight Custom III's (they've been great tires and last for years, while 
  flying about 150 hours a year).

  Dan
  N3968H
  Based @ CNO in SoCal

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Mark H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 6:39 AM
  Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Re: Nose wheel tires & tubes

  > There is one more point that was pointed out to me by my FAA guy. It
  > is that not only are the 6 plys heaver, they are stiffer and transmit
  > more landing force to the landing and then to the wing. I don't think
  > that he was wrong? what do you think? makes sence to me. Mark
  >
  >
  > --- In [email protected], "AJ DeMarzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > wrote:
  >>
  >> Dan;
  >>
  >> A little something about the 6 ply tire vs. the 4 ply tire you may
  > find interesting. I'm sharing this because I went from a 6 ply back
  > to the 4 ply on my Bonanza and will do it when the tire is worn on
  > the Coupe. This was based upon a discussion on the Bonanza list
  > which although highly reliable, gave me the incentive to do the
  > research and comparisons myself.
  >>
  >> Weight, weight, weight. Although it may only be a around a pound,
  > every extra ounce on a flying machine counts, especially on the
  > Ercoupe. Given the station that the extra weight is placed, I wonder
  > how much it changes the flight characteristics. The Ercoupe's nose
  > and load is well within the limits of weight that a 4 ply is designed
  > for. Do you really get any more wear from a 6 ply? There's no
  > additional tread depth! If there was any money saved, it was minimal.
  >>
  >> We'll not go into some of the crazy things like the a/c being
  > certificated with a 4 ply and not a 6, I don't know if that matters.
  >>
  >> Not a disagreement, just some food for thought. It's worth what
  > you paid for it.
  >>
  >> Al DeMarzo
  >> DON'T BUZZ OFF!
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  >>
  >>
  >> ----- Original Message ----- 
  >> From: Dan Hall
  >> To: [email protected]
  >> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:56 PM
  >> Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Nose wheel tires & tubes
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Hi Lynn,
  >> I've ordered two (single fork) nose wheel tires from Desser over
  > the past 10 years, and based on my experience they seem to have the
  > best pricing & availability, and reasonable service.
  >>
  >> For the MAIN gear tires I've used;
  >> 1) Goodyear Flight Custom III 6 ply tire and have had outstanding
  > service from them.
  >> 2) The other alternative I would consider are the Desser Monster
  > Retreads.
  >>
  >> Aviation Consumer rated both tire types very highly, called the
  > retread a best value, and said that there is no evidence to suggest
  > that the retreads and any less reliable then new tires.
  >>
  >> 6 ply tires are heavier & more expensive however; they also wear
  > longer and can take a bit more abuse. Pick your poison.
  >>
  >> Dan Hall
  >> N3968H
  >> @ CNO in SoCal
  >> ----- Original Message ----- 
  >> From: AJ DeMarzo
  >> To: [email protected]
  >> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 5:17 PM
  >> Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Nose wheel tires & tubes
  >>
  >>
  >> Desser's website has loads of information about tires and their
  > care. Did you know that you really don't have to change a tire due
  > to cracks? That's what the tire guys say! Read it yourself!
  >>
  >> Recaps are fine alternatives. Before going that route, I would
  > check and compare weights. Every pound counts, especially on an
  > Ercoupe.
  >>
  >> Since my project is not yet ready to fly, I'm not bothering
  > about a diet. ;-)
  >>
  >> Al DeMarzo
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  >>
  >>
  >> ----- Original Message ----- 
  >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected]
  >> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:07 PM
  >> Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Nose wheel tires & tubes
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Hey Dave: Desser Tire and Rubber Co. of Montebello, CA and
  > Memphis TN Phone 800 247 8473.
  >> They list a Good Year Flight Special II 500 -4 4 ply for $180
  > (New) and a 500-4 6 ply (recap) for 89.95.
  >> They say they have many sizes of tubes but do not list the
  > sizes or price. Free Shipping.
  >> Lynn Nelsen
  >> Frostproof FL
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
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