I am not saying it is true or false. I am just asking if anyone has 
heard of this or has any documentation on it. If anyone has a detail 
drawing of the belly that shows the stringers I would like to see it.

Kevin1


--- In [email protected], William R. Bayne <ercog...@...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Ok Kevin,
> 
> I've heard it (now).  ;<)
> 
> Let's re-pose the question:
> 
> Does anyone with credibility beyond having human shape possess or
> have access to the slightest "evidence" that:
> 
> 1.  Early Ercoupe belly skins flutter (audible oil canning) at 
minimum 
> speed
> with full back elevator (the proverbial "full stall" landing, or as 
> close as one
> can get in a coupe...would have no meaningful use in a "whip 
stall")?
> 
> 2.  Belly skin stiffeners were added to prevent the above, as 
opposed to
> preventing the possibility of skin failure from "oil canning" in 
other 
> modes of
> flight?
> 
> 3.  An airframe identifiable by N# or Serial # with unreinforced 
belly 
> skins
> can demonstrate the suggested "effect"?
> 
> 4.  Fred Weick ever suggested such an intentional hypothesis?
> 
> The Ercoupe DOES NOT STALL (in the normal sense) therefore the whole
> idea is preposterous!  Of what possible use is a "stall warning 
device" 
> in an
> aircraft design incapable of the traditional stall?
> 
> In flight with full back elevator and minimum power (the RAPID 
DESCENT
> mode some believe the dark side of coupe behavior), the only sound 
is
> teeth chattering or knees knocking of passengers unacquainted with 
this
> part of the flight envelope.
> 
> The pilot IS obligated to convert much of the impressive rate of 
> possible
> vertical descent (that's not a bug, that's a feature!) to forward 
motion
> WITHOUT AUDIBLE WARNING before ground contact otherwise the
> "arrival" may force the wheels up through the wings, the control 
column 
> up
> through the fuselage tank and result in spinal compression damage.
> 
> I found this ability to lose excess altitude with complete control 
> without flaps
> or slips impressive and useful.  Entry into and exit from it 
this "mode 
> of flight"
> are as simple and predictable as "normal" climb and "Normal"descent 
once
> the technique is learned and the skill maintained.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> William R. Bayne
> .____|-(o)-|____.
> (Copyright 2009)
> 
> -- 
> 
> On Jan 13, 2009, at 14:50, kgassert wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone heard that the belly of the Ercoupe was purposely 
designed
> > to flutter and make noise as a stall warning device? And that 
people
> > over the years have put stiffeners in this area to make it stop 
in the
> > believe that it was a design and in doing so disabled the stall 
> > warning?
> >
> > Kevin1
> >
> >
> >
> >
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