Darick, I usually am pretty close to William's idea. I try to do my downwind at 80 mph. Abeam the numbers, I reduce the power to around 1600 to 1800 rpm depending on wind and traffic. My intent is to come over the fence about 70 mph at which point I go to idle and glide to my aiming point. I don't mind putting it on the ground a little hot as I have the elevator restriction (1320 Gross weight) and I want to be able to flare rather than drop in. Also, I seldom aim to land "right on the numbers." I'm far less embarrassed landing a little long than I would be landing a little short. On an extremely short field, I would probably slow to the mid sixties over the fence but not much slower than that, especially if I was at max gross. My plane begins to get a little squirrelly at gross weight around 46 to 48 mph so I want to be on the ground before I get below 62 mph. (Your plane may vary depending on what's happened to it in the past 60 years or so :)
John Roach N 2427H [email protected] wrote: > I just got my license in 2006, and am curious about landing > techniques. My training was in an Aeronca Camp from a 20,000 hour > retired airline captain who also learned in a Champ. We always landed > the Champ with idle power setting and I do so now in the coupe. It > seems to me the safest way in the event of engine failure (referring > to the paragraph from below about whip stall). So, what do others > do? power off? power on? > Darick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William R. Bayne" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:08:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Stall warning in Ercou > Most probably put the trim in the "Land" position (nose high) and > control descent rate with power while landing. If forward speed is > maintained between 60-70 MPH, all is fine. > > At lower forward speeds, only power holds the plane out of a stall. > Should the engine quit from 100' or so until touchdown a hard landing > can result. If the same person is in the habit of aiming to touch > down "on the numbers", there can be insufficient forward momentum and > insufficient height to trade for such momentum to make the pavement or > clear a runway fence. The drop resulting from such transition (from > powered to unpowered descent) is a "whip stall" too close to the > ground for recovery...a very dangerous situation not worth the visit. > > Best regards, > > William R. Bayne > .____|_-_(o)_-_|____. > (Copyright 2009) > > -- > > On Jan 14, 2009, at 16:02, [email protected] wrote: > > "THis is Kevin's original post. > > Kevin asked: > > Has anyone heard that the belly of the Ercoupe was purposely designed > to flutter and make noise as a stall warning device? And that people > over the years have put stiffeners in this area to make it stop in > the believe that it was a design and in doing so disabled the stall > warning? How could the "belly" of the plane flutter? I’d think that > formed aluminum like that would be quite rigid. > > Don't think there is anything about spinning in the post. I know that > Ercoupes can and do stall, they just don't spin or come right out of > it. Many planes have a stall warning. Now that is a warning not > telling the pilot he is in a stall or spin, just a warning. I have > not heard that the belly functioned as a stall warning, if it does > "Great", if it doesn't "GREAT" either way Kevin doesn't deserve to > have his post demeaned or criticized. > > And doctor, over to you! Post should be read totally and not > interperted as one wishes, but as written. This forum is here to > assist, not bolster one's self esteem by demeaning someone else's > innocent question that was asked hoping to get some revelent > information. I have been in a coupe that stalled and due to incorrect > rigging (my opinion ) it fell off to the right in a dive. If the > belly does vibrate as a warning when one is nearing a stall, that is > wonderful even if it was not specifically designed to do so. It would > alert a distracted pilot that he was a bit too slow. > > So fellows lets read posts thoroughly and only then answer them with > the desire to help the person asking the question and not to criticize > them or to demonstrate how much more we we know than someone else. > > Lee Browning > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Bills adding up? Click here for free information on payday loans. > " >
