I just got my license in 2006, and am curious about landing techniques.  My 
training was in an Aeronca Camp from a 20,000 hour retired airline captain who 
also learned in a Champ.  We always landed the Champ with idle power setting 
and I do so now in the coupe.  It seems to me the safest way in the event of 
engine failure (referring to the paragraph from below about whip stall).  So,  
what do others do?  power off?  power on? 
Darick 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William R. Bayne" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:08:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Stall warning in Ercou 
Most probably put the trim in the "Land" position (nose high) and control 
descent rate with power while landing.  If forward speed is maintained between 
60-70 MPH, all is fine.  

At lower forward speeds, only power holds the plane out of a stall. Should the 
engine quit from 100' or so until touchdown a hard landing can result.  If the 
same person is in the habit of aiming to touch down "on the numbers", there can 
be insufficient forward momentum and insufficient height to trade for such 
momentum to make the pavement or clear a runway fence.  The drop resulting from 
such transition (from powered to unpowered descent) is a "whip stall" too close 
to the ground for recovery...a very dangerous situation not worth the visit. 

Best regards, 

William R. Bayne 
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(Copyright 2009) 

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On Jan 14, 2009, at 16:02, [email protected] wrote: 

THis is Kevin's original post. 

Kevin asked: 

Has anyone heard that the belly of the Ercoupe was purposely designed to 
flutter and make noise as a stall warning device? And that people over the 
years have put stiffeners in this area to make it stop in the believe that it 
was a design and in doing so disabled the stall warning?   How could the 
"belly" of the plane flutter?  I’d think that formed aluminum like that would 
be quite rigid. 

Don't think there is anything about spinning in the post.  I know that Ercoupes 
can and do stall, they just don't spin or come right out of it.  Many planes 
have a stall warning.  Now that is a warning not telling the pilot he is in a 
stall or spin, just a warning.  I have not heard that the belly functioned as a 
stall warning, if it does "Great", if it doesn't "GREAT" either way Kevin 
doesn't deserve to have his post demeaned or criticized.  

And doctor, over to you!  Post should be read totally and not interperted as 
one wishes, but as written.  This forum is here to assist, not bolster one's 
self esteem by demeaning someone else's innocent question that was asked hoping 
to get some revelent information.  I have been in a coupe that stalled and due 
to incorrect rigging (my opinion ) it fell off to the right in a dive.  If the 
belly does vibrate as a warning when one is nearing a stall, that is wonderful 
even if it was not specifically designed to do so.  It would alert a distracted 
pilot that he was a bit too slow. 

So fellows lets read posts thoroughly and only then answer them with the desire 
to help the person asking the question and not to criticize them or 
to demonstrate how much more we we know than someone else. 

Lee Browning 

  
   

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