Hi Lee,

The Ercoupe design, an inspired and superlative one, has suffered its entire existence from myths and misinformation largely originating with and perpetuated by persons who would not learn the truths and embrace them.

Kevin, who is a knowledgeable owner of obvious standing, posed a question as to whether or not others could "confirm" a new rumor by hearsay. He didn't say he believed it, and I don't think his was a "simple" question at all. Any possible "profiting" from the informed "give and take" on this list requires that speculation (which may or may not be credible) be separated from verifiable fact(s).

Of what possible benefit would any number of answers be saying "yeah, I've heard that" with no information as to where, from whom or when, and under what flight condition(s)? This is the process by which rumors advance to the "status" of Ercoupe myth perpetuated without basis in fact by the uninformed. That's why I tried to "turn" Kevin's query for more productive response(s) so any facts lurking "out there" might surface.

While the concept that Kevin sought further information on was preposterous as put forth, and I believe such characterization confirmed in its entirety by further information posted by Ed Burkhead and Prof. Ed, no disrespect was due or intended to Kevin. To such extent as anyone's feelings were hurt, I apologize.

The phenomena of "oil canning" in sheet metal is well documented and of concern for reasons of metal fatigue. From the sheer number of coupes still flying, any "problem" would seem to be minor; but any problem is worth due consideration and remedy when possible.

Scott's response that he hears a sound crossing his own wake in a tight turn in both his 415 and A-2A is such a response. He is clearly not trying to stall his birds in a turn and hearing a "stall warning". He is hearing the flexing of an aluminum structure subjected to the stress of minor wake turbulence.

Since early belly skins without the stiffeners had a greater tendency to exhibit this phenomena, it's interesting that his A-2A (which should have reinforced belly skins) would make the same sound, whatever the source.

Best regards,

William R. Bayne
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On Jan 14, 2009, at 09:09, [email protected] wrote:

Don't you just love it when a person asks a simple question and gets jumped on like a herd of turtles.  Such responses just might cause someone to not ask a very good question and prevent us all from profiting from the answer.

Take it easy Bill.

Lee Browning

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