Hi Darick,

Ed gives excellent information and techniques. We both just HATE to talk Ercoupes ;<)

My landing and flying technique are integrated, so I'll try to explain. Only two trim settings are used, and neither is at the extreme of trim operating range as the Ercoupe Instruction Manual suggests.

At approximately 1000' AGL (or pattern altitude, if there is a difference) after takeoff on a cross-country flight, I reduce power just enough to see the tach reading barely move. That's where the throttle knob stays. If you refer to the Continental Operating Manual, cruising 7-11,000 MSL (depending on winds aloft) keeps the percentile power conservative, fuel burn around 4.5 GPH and the RPM rotational stress MUCH less than the longer stroke and higher compression 0-200 at such RPM.

Trim is set for an 80-90 MPH "cruise-climb". Once desired altitude is reached, the trim is adjusted for neutral climb/descent, or "Cruise". This "cruise" trim position, once set, is marked so as to be easily duplicated. I use this precise setting for almost all normal flight operations.

Flight descents from 6-10M are trimmed for a cruise speed descent at cruise speed but reduced power. I should add that if I'm not going anywhere, I may putter around trimmed for slower flight level at 60-70MPH. There's NO advantage in going nowhere faster ;<) and it takes more fuel.

In any case, before landing my trim is set at the above-marked "cruise" position. From a 1000' AGL pattern altitude, I manually initiate and maintain a 300 FPM descent with reduced throttle when my left wing tip light on downwind passes where I wish to touch down on the runway (traffic at uncontrolled fields or tower permitting) and forward pressure on the yoke. 200' or so beyond the runway threshhold is a good touchdown "target" for fields as short as 1800'.

I want to lose about 300' before the turn to base, 300' on base leg, and 400' on final to touchdown. Such specifics change if a wide base leg is flown or if a long downwind/final is necessary due to traffic...in any case a manually stabilized descent during the final approach from 400' to touchdown should be established. About 100' before the runway pavement begins, power is chopped to idle and the yoke moved back to preserve or slow the descent rate (from here on it's done by "feel") and airspeed can be anything over 60 MPH.

My goal is to (more or less) simultaneously (1) arrest descent as the plane slows to a stable glide while (2) leveling the flight path and hold the main wheels just off the pavement. This is achieved by a slow and smooth movement of the yoke rearward. When the yoke gently contacts the "full up elevator" stop, the plane will gently sink to the runway. The priority is a "smooth" landing over a "spot" landing as a conscious choice; the technique easier to describe than to master.

Even in extreme direct crosswinds (25 MPH+), if the plane is fully under control (crabbed), minimum speed at the moment of touchdown is preferred followed by immediate and confident brake application. More than a few on (and off) this list have been spooked by the experience of a "wheel landing" well above minimum flying speed in gusty crosswinds when a rogue gust lifted a wing. I would suspect inadequate static tail height and crosswind proficiency...delay in aggressive application of the brakes to dip the nose, scrub speed, and drop the wing.

Advice to carry extra speed in under such conditions is 100% correct, but where the extra speed ON APPROACH gives you some "insurance" should you encounter wind shear, any extra speed from the moment of touchdown is a liability in a coupe, and infinitely more so if static tail height is low. The coupe is not supposed to lift off at ANY speed unless and until the pilot initiates rotation. To those who will understand how the plane's design works, and maintain and fly it properly, there is likely no crosswind that a competent Ercoupe pilot could better handle in another common aircraft design.

If the plane is not under absolute and confident control before touchdown, go around; and again, if necessary, until it is. The odds of a good landing following a botched approach are terrible, so demand of yourself a good approach before you make a separate (and optional) subsequent decision to land.

A "cruise" trim setting during landing requires that I literally "fly the plane down" manually (instead of delegating control of descent when landing to an inanimate trim system). Appropriate and intuitive response is immediate and effective if and when a strong gust or other challenge presents itself.

The Ercoupe design has NO flaws flown correctly, but one must be familiar with it's glide performance (and lack thereof), maintain proper static tail height; and don't put it on the ground until you AND it are BOTH through flying if you want it to display its consistent and inherent good manners. It is difficult at many airports to maintain a tight enough pattern that the runway can always be "made" in case of engine failure.

It is one of the few designs with sufficient wing dihedral and wing/horizontal stabilizer chord incidence angles to reproduce accurately in a free-flight model (no radio control). If rigged correctly, trimmed for level flight at 1900-2000 RPM it should fly straight and level without falling off on either wing. Even better, it should return to such level flight from a normal right or left turn. At any RPM, cut back to said RPM and trim for level flight and it should fly straight and level without falling off on either wing. Verify this for yourself, and it's an important and unique addition to a pilot's options.

Several more tips...the Ercoupe is a lady and rewards the gentle touch. It can seem unresponsive and unpredictable to the ham-handed. Put no more than three fingers on a yoke in flight 100' AGL until you learn how little force is enough.

Regards,

William R. Bayne
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(Copyright 2009)

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On Jan 16, 2009, at 20:57, [email protected] wrote:

I just got my license in 2006, and am curious about landing techniques.  My training was in an Aeronca Camp from a 20,000 hour retired airline captain who also learned in a Champ.  We always landed the Champ with idle power setting and I do so now in the coupe.  It seems to me the safest way in the event of engine failure (referring to the paragraph from below about whip stall).  So,  what do others do?  power off?  power on?
Darick


----- Original Message -----
From: "William R. Bayne" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:08:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Stall warning in Ercou
Most probably put the trim in the "Land" position (nose high) and control descent rate with power while landing.  If forward speed is maintained between 60-70 MPH, all is fine. 

At lower forward speeds, only power holds the plane out of a stall. Should the engine quit from 100' or so until touchdown a hard landing can result.  If the same person is in the habit of aiming to touch down "on the numbers", there can be insufficient forward momentum and insufficient height to trade for such momentum to make the pavement or clear a runway fence.  The drop resulting from such transition (from powered to unpowered descent) is a "whip stall" too close to the ground for recovery...a very dangerous situation not worth the visit.

 Best regards,

 William R. Bayne
 .____|-(o)-|____.
 (Copyright 2009)

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