Fred -

The rules are quite different between a private pilot certificate and a sport 
pilot certificate.

Private pilots have ratings on their licenses; currently, sport pilots do not.

If a private pilot has a rating for airplane, single engine land, he may fly 
any single engine land airplane with a gross weight below 12,500 pounds.  He 
requires a CFI endorsement in his pilot log for complex, high performance, and 
high altitude airplanes.

Since a 152 and a Cherokee are not complex, nor are they either high 
performance or high altitude, no CFI instruction or check out is required to go 
from one to the other.  Not that it's wise, but the FARs are minimums only.  
Insurance may require a checkout to go from one to the other, but not the FARs.

Jerry E.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on 
Behalf Of [email protected]
  Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:56 PM
  To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
  Subject: RE: [ercoupe-tech] Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate


  It is my understanding if you get your PPL in a Piper Cherokee and want 
  to fly a Cesna 152, you have to have a CFI check you out in the new 
  make and model. If you got your ticket in a 2 axis Ercoupe and he does 
  his job right, he will check you for spins, stalls, and slips in the 
  check out. Isn't this correct? I have no restriction on my sport 
  pilot lic. for 2 axis only. It is just the same for a tail dragger. 
  If you get your lic. in a tricycle gear, you cannot step into a tail 
  dragger and expect to fly away. You have to be checked out (training 
  until proficient to fly it).

  Fred

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kurt Gross <[email protected]>
  To: 'Jim Truxel' <[email protected]>; [email protected]; 
  [email protected]
  Sent: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 2:20 pm
  Subject: RE: [ercoupe-tech] Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate

  To Jim:

  The examiner screwed up. Did they luck
  out? Maybe, maybe not. If they ever get in an accident, the attorney 
  that sues
  them will probably figure it that there was a mistake made on the 
  issuance of
  the pilot license.  I wouldn’t want to be the examiner that issued
  the cert or the pilot that is using it at that point.

   

  To Tandy:

  If he takes the check ride in a no ped
  coupe and the examiner does it right, he would restrict the certificate 
  to
  aircraft with20no rudder pedals.

  Kurt

  DPE

   

  From:
  [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
  Behalf Of Jim Truxel

  Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009
  11:17 AM

  To: [email protected];
  [email protected]

  Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech]
  Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate

   

  I have 2 friends that got their Private check rides in
  Coupes without rudder pedals and had no restrictions.

   

  The biggest issue they had was some instructors would not
  instruct in Coupes and some Flight Examiners would not conduct a flight 
  check
  in them. 

   

  Jim

  N3439H

  FDK

  ----- Original Message -----

  From: Tandy Allen

  To: [email protected]

  Sent: Monday, January
  26, 2009 12:07 PM

  Subject: [ercoupe-tech]
  Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate

   

  Guys - A possible buyer of my Coupe wants it to
  learn to fly in.  Would his certificate be restricted to flying 
  Coupes?

  Tandy

   

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