And he did the right thing with the restriction. It should be another check ride to lift the restriction. You can't just demo a slip. You need a NEW license, hence another check ride.
I hope no-one thinks that all you need to do is demonstrate a slip to make a noped Ercoupe pilot safe in a rudder airplane. The first time they panic when the airplane is veering to the side of the runway they will turn the yoke and continue toward the runway lights. Kurt On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:18:25 -0800, kim Blackseth wrote > When I got my PP last week, the DPE put a 2 axis (Ercoupe) restriction on my > certificate. He said the PTS required I be able to demonstrate a slip and > since the Ercoupe could not, he could not give me a PP without this > restriction. > > He also said he would remove the restriction if I could demonstrate a slip in > another plane... > > Kim Blackseth > N2332H > > > > On Jan 26, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Hartmut Beil wrote: > > Guys, > I might be mistaken, but in a similar discussion some time ago - didn't we > found out that the restriction on the license is bogus and has no base? > Didn't we found out that the examiner of the fifties wanted to separate the > "cheap" license that you could get back then with less hours from the "real" > license of a Cessna driver? Today there is only one license in every class. > Either Private Pilot or Sport Pilot, everyone is making the same tests and > flying the same hours. > I got my license in a Tomahawk - little I learned of canard flying. But my > license does not restrict me on conventional aircraft forms either. > > If anyone wants to move onto another type of aircraft, he needs at least a > checkride to do so. That checkride should also be a careful examination of > rudders and the use thereof. > The license is more about airmanship, not so much about details like rudders. > > Hartmut > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:20:51 -0600 > Subject: RE: [ercoupe-tech] Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate > > To Jim: > > The examiner screwed up. Did they luck out? Maybe, maybe not. If they ever > get in an accident, the attorney that sues them will probably figure it that > there was a mistake made on the issuance of the pilot license. I > [WINDOWS-1252?]wouldnt want to be the examiner that issued the cert or the > pilot that is using it at that point. > > To Tandy: > If he takes the check ride in a no ped coupe and the examiner does it right, > he would restrict the certificate to aircraft with no rudder pedals. > Kurt > DPE > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] on > Behalf Of Jim Truxel > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:17 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate > > > I have 2 friends that got their Private check rides in Coupes without rudder > pedals and had no restrictions. > > > > The biggest issue they had was some instructors would not instruct in Coupes > and some Flight Examiners would not conduct a flight check in them. > > > > Jim > > N3439H > > FDK > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tandy Allen > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:07 PM > > Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate > > > > > Guys - A possible buyer of my Coupe wants it to learn to fly in. Would his > certificate be restricted to flying Coupes? > > > Tandy > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter > We are a community of 5.9 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 1118 of my spam emails to date. > The Professional version does not have this message > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows [WINDOWS-1252?]Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. See how it works. > > > > Kim Blackseth, ICC, CASp > 310 17th St > Oakland, CA > 510-839-1760 > > > >
