As usual, Jerry E. is right on with his explanation.

Kurt

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:05:53 -0500, Jerry Eichenberger wrote 
> [UTF-8?] 
> Fred - 
>   
> The rules are quite different between a private pilot certificate and a sport 
> pilot certificate. 
>   
> Private pilots have ratings on their licenses; currently, sport pilots do 
> not. 
>   
> If a private pilot has a rating for airplane, single engine land, he may fly 
> any single engine land airplane with a gross weight below 12,500 pounds.  He 
> requires a CFI endorsement in his pilot log for complex, high performance, 
> and high altitude airplanes. 
>   
> Since a 152 and a Cherokee are not complex, nor are they either high 
> performance or high altitude, no CFI instruction or check out is required to 
> go from one to the other.  Not that it's wise, but the FARs are minimums 
> only.  Insurance may require a checkout to go from one to the other, but not 
> the FARs. 
>   
> Jerry E.

> -----Original Message----- 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on 
> Behalf Of [email protected] 
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:56 PM 
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
> [email protected] 
> Subject: RE: [ercoupe-tech] Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate 
> 
> 
> 
> It is my understanding if you get your PPL in a Piper Cherokee and want 
> to fly a Cesna 152, you have to have a CFI check you out in the new 
> make and model. If you got your ticket in a 2 axis Ercoupe and he does 
> his job right, he will check you for spins, stalls, and slips in the 
> check out. Isn't this correct? I have no restriction on my sport 
> pilot lic. for 2 axis only. It is just the same for a tail dragger. 
> If you get your lic. in a tricycle gear, you cannot step into a tail 
> dragger and expect to fly away. You have to be checked out (training 
> until proficient to fly it). 
> 
> Fred 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Kurt Gross <[email protected]> 
> To: 'Jim Truxel' <[email protected]>; [email protected]; 
> [email protected] 
> Sent: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 2:20 pm 
> Subject: RE: [ercoupe-tech] Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate 
> 
> To Jim: 
> 
> The examiner screwed up. Did they luck 
> out? Maybe, maybe not. If they ever get in an accident, the attorney 
> that sues 
> them will probably figure it that there was a mistake made on the 
> issuance of 
> the pilot license.  I [UTF-8?]wouldn’t want to be the examiner that issued 
> the cert or the pilot that is using it at that point. 
> 
>   
> 
> To Tandy: 
> 
> If he takes the check ride in a no ped 
> coupe and the examiner does it right, he would restrict the certificate 
> to 
> aircraft with20no rudder pedals. 
> 
> Kurt 
> 
> DPE 
> 
>   
> 
> From: 
> [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Jim Truxel 
> 
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 
> 11:17 AM 
> 
> To: [email protected]; 
> [email protected] 
> 
> Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] 
> Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate 
> 
>   
> 
> I have 2 friends that got their Private check rides in 
> Coupes without rudder pedals and had no restrictions. 
> 
>   
> 
> The biggest issue they had was some instructors would not 
> instruct in Coupes and some Flight Examiners would not conduct a flight 
> check 
> in them.  
> 
>   
> 
> Jim 
> 
> N3439H 
> 
> FDK 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: Tandy Allen 
> 
> To: [email protected] 
> 
> Sent: Monday, January 
> 26, 2009 12:07 PM 
> 
> Subject: [ercoupe-tech] 
> Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate 
> 
>   
> 
> Guys - A possible buyer of my Coupe wants it to 
> learn to fly in.  Would his certificate be restricted to flying 
> Coupes? 
> 
> Tandy 
> 
>   
> 
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