When I got my PP last week, the DPE put a 2 axis (Ercoupe)
restriction on my certificate. He said the PTS required I be able to
demonstrate a slip and since the Ercoupe could not, he could not give
me a PP without this restriction.
He also said he would remove the restriction if I could demonstrate a
slip in another plane...
Kim Blackseth
N2332H
On Jan 26, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Hartmut Beil wrote:
Guys,
I might be mistaken, but in a similar discussion some time ago -
didn't we found out that the restriction on the license is bogus
and has no base?
Didn't we found out that the examiner of the fifties wanted to
separate the "cheap" license that you could get back then with less
hours from the "real" license of a Cessna driver? Today there is
only one license in every class. Either Private Pilot or Sport
Pilot, everyone is making the same tests and flying the same hours.
I got my license in a Tomahawk - little I learned of canard flying.
But my license does not restrict me on conventional aircraft forms
either.
If anyone wants to move onto another type of aircraft, he needs at
least a checkride to do so. That checkride should also be a careful
examination of rudders and the use thereof.
The license is more about airmanship, not so much about details
like rudders.
Hartmut
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; ercoupe-
[email protected]
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:20:51 -0600
Subject: RE: [ercoupe-tech] Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate
To Jim:
The examiner screwed up. Did they luck out? Maybe, maybe not. If
they ever get in an accident, the attorney that sues them will
probably figure it that there was a mistake made on the issuance of
the pilot license. I wouldn’t want to be the examiner that issued
the cert or the pilot that is using it at that point.
To Tandy:
If he takes the check ride in a no ped coupe and the examiner does
it right, he would restrict the certificate to aircraft with no
rudder pedals.
Kurt
DPE
From: [email protected] [mailto:ercoupe-
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Truxel
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:17 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate
I have 2 friends that got their Private check rides in Coupes
without rudder pedals and had no restrictions.
The biggest issue they had was some instructors would not instruct
in Coupes and some Flight Examiners would not conduct a flight
check in them.
Jim
N3439H
FDK
----- Original Message -----
From: Tandy Allen
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:07 PM
Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Restriction on Private Pilots Certificate
Guys - A possible buyer of my Coupe wants it to learn to fly in.
Would his certificate be restricted to flying Coupes?
Tandy
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