The real issue is if there had been a change 337 in the FAA file, not registration as John pointed out. There also is another facet of all this, NOTHING keeps you from changing a D, converted from a C or not, from being remade back into a C Type 718 from 787. However, even if you do change it back, it still is NOT qualified as an LSA, FAA rules specifically prohibit that from happening. I forsee that someday we may see a change to that rule however, I have done my share of writing to have that silly rule changed, it simply makes no sense to have it that way. You make an aircraft EXACTLY as it came from the factory as a C, but it is not an LSA, crazy. I seriously considered just buying one of these grey area coupes, but when I got the legal advice that I would be flying in an illegal status, and of course my insurance would be invalid, I could not see that the risk was worth it. Even a small violation and I would be on the wrong side of the law. I have an inside track to the FAA by kinship, and would you believe it was primarily CESSNA lobby people with pockets full of cash that was responsible for the 1320 limit? What were their reasons? Well I cannot say for a fact, but I think it has been pretty well explained in the previous post.
.--- In [email protected], "bigbrownpi...@..." <bigbrownpi...@...> wrote: > > I don't think you will see the LSA weights raised. Here's why-- we want it > raised to 1400, but we are a relatively small community. The real push is > from the Cessna 150 community who want it raised to 1520 (don't quote me on > the exact number, but it's close) so the 150 can be flown as an LSA. Now > Cessna and Piper (among others) have made a huge investment in manufacturing > and sellingnew LSA aircraft. If the market were to suddenly become flooded > with LSA C-150's there would be a whole lot less demand for their aircraft. > I predict they will vigorously oppose raising the weight and lobby the FAA to > keep it at 1320. There may be another approach we can pursue to allow > Ercoupe owners to re-certify the aircraft as LSA at 1320 (like you said, same > airplane, etc.) but I don't see an increase in LSA weight in the future. > > JMO, Then again, I could be wrong! > > --- In [email protected], Ronin Sensei <ronin_sensei@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think that's just temporary. > > > > On the obverse, years ago, I supposedly bought a D model, when D models > > were all the rage. Investment in the D conversion added a bunch to the > > value. But, when I researched it, I found that mine was actually a C model > > that had never been properly converted. It had most of the hardware, but > > was still registered as a C. > > > > So, I accepted the situation. I called it a C and lived with it. If I had > > sold it as a D, I would have been considered a fraud. > > > > Then the lite-sport classification was created and everything was turned > > up-side-down. EVERYBODY wants a C model, and they look at my tags with > > suspicion. So, now I have to explain why I don't tag mine as a D model. > > Same plane. Same paperwork. No change. > > > > If they increase the light sport weight to 1400 lbs, then everybody will > > want a D model again, and "D" tags will again be viewed with suspicion. > > > > That is why I maintain that the registration must remain the final word. > > The FAA says it is a C, and says it's always been a C, and I'm not gonna > > argue with them. > > > > Anything else is just back-yard lawyering. I should know. I'm a lawyer. > > > > BUT, OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT REAL LEGAL ADVICE. IF YOU WANT REAL LEGAL > > ADVICE, PAY FOR IT. > > :-) > > Dave Winters > > > > To: [email protected] > > From: DonGeneda@ > > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:57:57 +0000 > > Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Re: Re; Data Plates for those interested > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is easy to answer. When I was shopping for a coupe, I found 10 or 12 > > that had been converted to D model, and with the blank data plate, the > > owner had changed it back to a C model for the unsuspecting buyer. I began > > to get suspicious whenever I saw a "fresh new" dataplate. If you haven't > > noticed, that "change" adds about 10-12 thousand to the selling price. > > Lots and lots of D models out there. > > > > Pretty good investment for $37.50. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], bbartsey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > OK. Now I'm curious. Why the demand for these data plates? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 > > >
