The Silent Observer wrote:

> Randall Clague wrote:
>>We're on the same page.  What I'm asking you is, to which capability
>>number shall we apply Moore's Law?  Altitude?  Delta-v?  Mass
>>fraction?  Total impulse?  Each will yield a different answer.
> 
> To disagree with Ian a bit, ISTM that Delta V is the factor that can be
> increased by actual engineering; Isp is a matter of propellant choice
> and making the engine last long enough for your burn (or your reuse
> cycle), and has pretty well known limits for any given propellant
> chemistry.


Well known theoretical limits.  In practice, it's not so easy to achieve
100% of the theoretical ISP limit; engineering is required to realize a
good (and then better) percent.  Higher delta V can be realized by
simply taking along more fuel and accepting a poorer mass ratio (and
higher costs): a 100 kg payload on a rocket with a 10,000 kg fuel tank
vs. a 100,000 kg fuel tank is still the same payload.

> Altitude increases wildly with relatively modest increases
> in Delta V.  Mass fraction is good, but translates very directly into
> Delta V; in fact, it's Delta V that gets you anywhere.  A huge mass
> fraction with peroxide monopropellant still won't get you to orbit, and
> an Isp equivalent to 10 km/s effective exhaust velocity won't help you
> if the engine is so heavy you only have a 30% mass fraction.


Doesn't the ISP - at least, as measured in practice - account for the
weight of the engine?


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