On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:06:15 +0100, Ian Woollard
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>On the other side of the coin, the thrust:weight ratio is not that bad, 
>you only need enough thrust to hold an altitude for a couple of hundred 
>kilometers, and you may even be able to use it on the way up too (for a 
>small amount of the flight envelope), they have no moving parts, they're 
>more reliable, need much less maintenance, and are cheaper to build/buy 
>than a turbojet.
>
>I'm not saying they're theoretically as good as a turbojet; but quite a 
>bit of the cost of a launch vehicle is in the purchase of the said 
>launch vehicle and jets cost a whole lot more. Fuel is the cheap bit. 
>I'd bet dollars to donuts that it's more cost effective in this case.

I'll take that bet.  There are no commercially produced ramjet
engines.  There are dozens of commercially produced turbojet/turbofan
engines.  I'm positive a turbine-based RTLS launch vehicle system
could be produced for less money than a ram-based system of equal
performance.

I'd also bet, though a smaller amount, that you couldn't make a case
that either one is competitive with the equivalent existing ELV.

-R

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