On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Mark S. Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> No. "Harmony" refers to the agreed post-ES5 trajectory of the > language. It was part of the harmonious agreement to accept ES3.1 as > ES5. ES6 and ES7 are both steps of ES-Harmony. > I believe a good example is Object.observe, which is a "harmonious proposal" (accepted by all in the committee) that's on track for ES7, instead of ES6. Rick > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Brandon Benvie > <[email protected]> wrote: > > My understanding is that "harmony" refers perpetually to ES-next, > whatever > > that thing is at the time. Since ES6 now has a name and a (draft) spec, > it > > no longer is harmony (it's ES6). The wiki doesn't reflect this, but this > is > > what (I think) I have observed from what TC39 members have said. > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Domenic Denicola > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I think part of the confusion is that, from what I understand, "harmony" > >> refers to things that are agreed upon by all TC39 members, or at least > were > >> at one time. But this does not imply it being in ES6. > >> > >> That is, much confusion I've seen on the internet stems from people > >> assuming "harmony" means ES6, since for so long we were calling it > >> "ECMAScript Harmony." > >> > >> I'd suggest either downgrading non-ES6 proposals to strawman, or > creating > >> a new "es6" namespace and moving the relevant pages there. The former is > >> probably very appropriate for things that were once harmonious, but now > >> contentious or obsoleted by other features. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Of course, the actual solution for all this is for me to launch a bunch > of > >> pull requests against Dave's new wiki, giving it the same breadth and > depth > >> as the current one. Then we can point the internet to that as the > >> authoritative source of information, with the current wiki used more as > a > >> scratchpad or historical archive. I'll try to re-shuffle my to-do > list... > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] > on > >> behalf of Rick Waldron [[email protected]] > >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 13:20 > >> To: David Bruant > >> Cc: Brendan Eich; es-discuss Steen > >> Subject: Re: Wiki and drafts (was: Polyfill for Maps and Sets) > >> > >> Cool, check this: > >> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2013-January/028270.html:) > >> > >> That's not all of them, but I'll go through it all again for anything I > >> missed (unless you want to list any here, which would be fantastic) > >> > >> > >> Rick > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:08 PM, David Bruant <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Le 18/01/2013 18:58, Rick Waldron a écrit : > >>>> > >>>> It doesn't seem reasonable to maintain two versions of the proposals > as > >>>> they become specifications. > >>>> > >>>> My first thought is that the simplest possible strategy is to update > >>>> harmony proposal pages (on the wiki) with a line at the top that > indicates > >>>> that the proposal is now in the spec draft. This is low effort-cost to > >>>> convey that everyone should be looking at the latest and greatest of > each > >>>> proposal as they become part of the ES6 draft revisions and progress > towards > >>>> finalization therein. > >>> > >>> I fully agree. It'll bring more attention to what happens in the drafts > >>> and will make more people to review them. > >>> Also, if something in the harmony namespace is put on hold like > >>> harmony:classes it should probably be downgraded to the strawman > namespace. > >>> > >>> David > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> es-discuss mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > es-discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss > > > > > > -- > Cheers, > --MarkM > _______________________________________________ > es-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >
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