Hi Claire,Pablo,Elham and all,

We ask old man how to live our life when we are young,but they always
tell us "find the answer by yourself."
So,we all agree that we learn life's lessons on our own.

Their is no different raising children.
They must keep trying and trying to know this world.
So leaving them free is better.

However,there are so many dangerous in our world.We can't reload after
making mistake on those choice.
So,the helping to avoid them from intellectual old man is important.
Just don't let things will regard latter happening.

Check experience and look forward.

Good days to you and all.
Charles
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:52 AM, Elham Moazzen<[email protected]> wrote:
> Being over-protective parents usually damages the child's characteristic
> rather than helping it to improve. A child who always takes advantage of his
> parents' protection against his small society never learns to defend
> himself. As a dependent person on the power of his parents, he gradually
> loses self-confidence and his mind never trains how to solve a problem
> happening to him. In the worst case, If he is over-protected in his faults
> and mistakes, he becomes a spoiled kid who has many hardships in associating
> with other children and even larger problems when grows up.
>
> In my opinion, parents should protect their children moderately. In some
> cases it should be invisible by the child in order to force him challenge
> the problem and solve it without the visible helps and protection of his
> parents. In contrast, In some cases the child should see that his parents
> care him and defend him in the domain he cannot overcome by himself.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:14 AM, pln471 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi NgoNam Pablo Oshiro Claire and all other still silent ones,;)
>>
>> There's another point you haven't discussed which seems very common
>> among parents.
>>
>> Quite a lot of them,including me sometimes,tend to be either over-
>> protective of their children or over-lenient to them.
>>
>> Children being brought up that way become too dependent on their
>> parents till very late years and lose their ability to cope with the
>> reality.:(
>>
>> They are spoiled or pampered by their parents too much.
>> How can we be a 'prince' or 'princess' forever?LOL
>>
>> Good night,
>> Pln
>>
>> On Jul 3, 8:56 pm, "NgoNam" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi Pablo, Oshiro, Claire and others,
>> >
>> > Thank you very much for your very indiviadual and exciting responses.
>> > This is a topic question on writing task II of an IELTS book that I'm
>> > trying
>> > to write.
>> > To be honest, I'm really interested in discussing about topics related
>> > to
>> > education, especially methods of education. It's because when having the
>> > chance to study and experience something I always want to discover the
>> > secret of being good at that subject. Thus, teaching or influencing
>> > others,
>> > for me, is not so difficult once I've understand it thoroughly. You see,
>> > when you're able to teach or guide others, it means that you've mastered
>> > it.
>> >
>> > Returning to our focal topic, I had that chance to experience my
>> > childhood
>> > and luckily was given nearly the total freedom to decide what I wanted
>> > to do
>> > since I was a rather little child. From my own experience, both ways of
>> > bringing-up children have their own advantages and disavantages and it
>> > must
>> > base on particular situations to decide which one is most suitable, and
>> > sometimes you need to combine harmoniously these two methods to creat
>> > your
>> > own solution for your child.
>> >
>> > Comparing the advantages and disadvantages of these two ways of bringing
>> > up
>> > children, I think the latter approach, leaving them free to learn life's
>> > lessons, is preferable in this modern world nowadays. Children today are
>> > very intelligent and aware of themselves. With good education they will
>> > soon
>> > understand the right and wrong, what they should do and what they
>> > shouldn't
>> > do in their daily lives. For these ones, parents don't need to give any
>> > strict disciplines as the major purpose of any diciplines is to threaten
>> > them and force them to follow you. From very begining years of our
>> > children
>> > we should encourage them to act with boldness instead of fear and try to
>> > think and do independently as much as they can. Obviously parents must
>> > always look after them, follow every their step but just give them the
>> > feeling of being freedom in their action.
>> > But for ones who are always disobedient it's necessary to formulate some
>> > rules and strict discipline to force them to be more obedient and
>> > disciplined.
>> >
>> > Above is just a piece of my thoughts, many problems such as advantages
>> > and
>> > disavantages of these two methods or many other factors haven't been
>> > covered
>> > entirely. So keep on discussing about them, hopefully I'll get a huge
>> > number
>> > of ideas about this topic so that I can complete my writing perfectly ^^
>> >
>> > Keep on discussing please.
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > NgoNam
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Pablo" <[email protected]>
>> > To: "ESL Podcast" <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:04 AM
>> > Subject: [ESL Podcast] Re: Raise children with strict discipline or
>> > leave
>> >
>> > them free to learn life's lessons on their own?
>> >
>> > > Hi NgoNam, Oshiro, Claire and all,
>> >
>> > > When my daughter was in her first school years I was strict with her
>> > > and I realized later it didn't work like that.  My daughter became
>> > > fearful from me. She used to forget her homework and she didn't bring
>> > > her notebooks to home. Later the teacher asked me 'Why your daughter
>> > > isn't doing her homework?'. Only in that moment I realized that I was
>> > > in the wrong way. I change a lot about her because of that.  The only
>> > > problem was her scholar performance, I mean, not her grades but her
>> > > skills, her handwriting and her scholar duties. Although she was above
>> > > the average.
>> >
>> > > Now, and since ever we focus around values, about health, about
>> > > physical activity, the social part, etc. I mean, about the importance
>> > > of an integral development, and about the importance of enjoying her
>> > > childhood.
>> >
>> > > She is twelve. She doesn't need a boyfriend.  She needs a puppy! And
>> > > so do I! I'm relaxed with her but I keep complaining for basic things/
>> > > responsibilities like the importance of be tidy, etc.. But that isn't
>> > > my cup of tea either ;) LOL
>> >
>> > > I mean, rather than being strict or not, the important think is set an
>> > > example and spend time with them. I a parent keeps watching TV at
>> > > nights, why he/she would be entitled to ask too much to children?
>> >
>> > > Thank you,
>> >
>> > > Pablo
>> >
>> > > On 29 jun, 21:33, "NgoNam" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> Hi all,
>> >
>> > >> Would you like to discuss about a quite hard and practical issue:
>> > >> "Some parents raise their children with strict discipline while
>> > >> others
>> > >> leave them free to learn life's lessons on their own. Whichone of
>> > >> these
>> > >> approaches is better and why?".
>> >
>> > >> Give your opinion please,
>> > >> Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> "When you know what you want,and you want it badly enough,you'll find a way
> to get it."
>
> "Successful leaders have the courage to take action while others hesitate."
>
> >
>

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