As outsider: For work purposes it makes sense as Ethan says to not have limit.
But I do agree with Anne that short looks better, gives more info per square foot interface... but, actually, I really believe that it will sort itself out as long and windy messages will look, eh, long and windy and certainly not cool - it's called peer pressure :) So soon you'll find all going short despite freedom to occasionally going long. (and with twitter many will be used to stay short already) <end of long and windy message> On 6 April 2010 22:52, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <[email protected]> wrote: > Nope and nope (yet). > > Right now we don't have a fixed length to our messages, which I was never a > big fan of. From a UI developer perspective it is a bit difficult to make it > nice looking when you don't know if what comes has 140 characters or 1400. > > > On 6. apr. 2010, at 22.41, Sig Rinde wrote: > >> Do you have countdown from 140 as well? >> And url shortening? >> Two very nice twitter features that.. >> >> Would definitely not be cool to manually count the chars :) >> >> >> On 6 April 2010 22:29, Ethan Jewett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Thanks for doing this! I guess I'd leave it open until we have a more >>> permanent fix, but maybe lower the "badness" of the issue and make a >>> note of why that is happening? >>> >>> I'm actually starting to think that the best way to do this is to have >>> the javascript that populates the message text that is being replied >>> to truncate that text to 140 characters (or something). The user just >>> needs a sample and JS has easy functions for doing this. Hmmm. Maybe >>> tonight. >>> >>> What do you think? Do we want truncation or stretching as our final >>> fix for this issue? >>> >>> Ethan >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> If we encourage our users not to use more than 140 characters (which I >>>> always thought we should) - we are now safe. Shall I leave the ticket open >>>> as this is a bit of a quick fix, seeing we haven't imposed any limits for >>>> how long the messages can be. (yet) >>>> >>>> /Anne >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4. apr. 2010, at 01.44, Ethan Jewett wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I already opened ESME-188 for this issue (the input area expanding) - >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-188 >>>>> >>>>> I don't think we need to move anything. Instead, we either need to >>>>> restrict the total length of the "reply to" section to only display >>>>> part of the message being replied to, or we need to make the input >>>>> area background expand dynamically to accomodate varied message >>>>> lengths. >>>>> >>>>> Ethan >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I'll take a look at it tomorrow. >>>>>> We could also make the update box background a bit longer too. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 18.57, Richard Hirsch wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe it was some other tool. Smaller font and other color (grey?) >>>>>>> might be >>>>>>> one option >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe >>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will take a look at it during tomorrow's daily UI hour, but smaller >>>>>>>> font >>>>>>>> might be one solution. >>>>>>>> twitter doesn't display the "reply to:" at all and brizzly displays an >>>>>>>> reply to box inline. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 18.52, Richard Hirsch wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> let's look at how twitter / brizzly do it. They use a smaller font. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe < >>>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I like it :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now sort of unrelated. >>>>>>>>>> I think we need to move the "reply to" function, as it currently is >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> pushes the Share with and Update button out of the "what are you >>>>>>>>>> working >>>>>>>> on" >>>>>>>>>> box. Where should we move it to? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2. apr. 2010, at 01.33, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Author: esjewett >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu Apr 1 23:33:10 2010 >>>>>>>>>>> New Revision: 930136 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=930136&view=rev >>>>>>>>>>> Log: >>>>>>>>>>> [ESME-187] Re-arrange input area so that the flow is a little >>>>>>>>>>> better - >>>>>>>>>> this is a bit of an experiment - feel free to back out >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Modified: >>>>>>>>>>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Modified: >>>>>>>>>>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css >>>>>>>>>>> URL: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css?rev=930136&r1=930135&r2=930136&view=diff >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ============================================================================== >>>>>>>>>>> --- incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css >>>>>>>>>> (original) >>>>>>>>>>> +++ incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css Thu >>>>>>>>>>> Apr >>>>>>>>>> 1 23:33:10 2010 >>>>>>>>>>> @@ -192,10 +192,15 @@ label { >>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>> .login-btn, .update-btn, .submit-btn { >>>>>>>>>>> float:right; >>>>>>>>>>> -} >>>>>>>>>>> +} >>>>>>>>>>> +.share-select { >>>>>>>>>>> + float:left; >>>>>>>>>>> +} >>>>>>>>>>> .update-btn { >>>>>>>>>>> - margin-top:20px; >>>>>>>>>>> - padding-top:10px; >>>>>>>>>>> + margin-right:40px; >>>>>>>>>>> +} >>>>>>>>>>> +.update-btn, .share-select { >>>>>>>>>>> + margin-top:10px; >>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>> #form-update label { >>>>>>>>>>> font-weight:bold; >>>>>>>>>>> @@ -216,7 +221,7 @@ textarea.inputBox2 { >>>>>>>>>>> float:left; >>>>>>>>>>> background-color:#FFFFFF !important; >>>>>>>>>>> border:1px solid #a7aaad; >>>>>>>>>>> - width:440px; >>>>>>>>>>> + width:95%; >>>>>>>>>>> height:50px; >>>>>>>>>>> padding:4px; >>>>>>>>>>> margin-right:10px;color:#000; >>>>>>>>>>> @@ -532,7 +537,7 @@ h5 { font-size: 100%; } >>>>>>>>>>> h6 { font-size: 80%; } >>>>>>>>>>> img, img a {border:0px; } >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -.clear {clear:both; height:20px; } >>>>>>>>>>> +.clear {clear:both;} >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> /* >>>>>>>>>>> .container-update, .container-tabs, .container-settings {behavior: >>>>>>>>>> url("src/iepngfix.htc");} >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Modified: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html >>>>>>>>>>> URL: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html?rev=930136&r1=930135&r2=930136&view=diff >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ============================================================================== >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html >>>>>>>>>> (original) >>>>>>>>>>> +++ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html >>>>>>>>>> Thu Apr 1 23:33:10 2010 >>>>>>>>>>> @@ -26,29 +26,30 @@ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_request</lift:loc> >>>>>>>>>>> </h3> >>>>>>>>>>> <div id="form-update"> >>>>>>>>>>> - <div id="messages"></div> >>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>> - <div class="post-form-row"> >>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> <label><lift:loc>ui_messages_share</lift:loc></label> >>>>>>>>>>> - <select id="vPool" >>>>>>>>>> class="inputBox2"> >>>>>>>>>>> - <option >>>>>>>> value="0"> >>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_pool_public</lift:loc> >>>>>>>>>>> - </option> >>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> <lift:UserSnip.accessPools/> >>>>>>>>>>> - </select> >>>>>>>>>>> - </div> >>>>>>>>>>> - <div class="row clear" >>>>>>>>>> style="display: none" id="reply-to-div"> >>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> <b><lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_reply</lift:loc></b> >>>>>>>>>>> - <span >>>>>>>>>> id="reply-to-span">-</span> >>>>>>>>>>> - <a href="javascript: >>>>>>>>>> clearReplyTo()"> >>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_remove_reply</lift:loc> >>>>>>>>>>> - </a> >>>>>>>>>>> - </div> >>>>>>>>>>> + <div id="messages"></div> >>>>>>>>>>> <div class="post-form-row"> >>>>>>>>>>> <textarea >>>>>>>> class="inputBox2" >>>>>>>>>> id="vMsg" rows="5" cols="80%"></textarea> >>>>>>>>>>> <div class="row clear" >>>>>>>>>> style="display: none"> >>>>>>>>>>> <input id="vTag" >>>>>>>>>> style="width: 90%"/> >>>>>>>>>>> </div> >>>>>>>>>>> + </div> >>>>>>>>>>> + <div class="row clear" >>>>>>>>>> style="display: none" id="reply-to-div"> >>>>>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>>>> <b><lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_reply</lift:loc></b> >>>>>>>>>>> + <span id="reply-to-span">-</span> >>>>>>>>>>> + <a href="javascript: clearReplyTo()"> >>>>>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_remove_reply</lift:loc> >>>>>>>>>>> + </a> >>>>>>>>>>> + </div> >>>>>>>>>>> + <div class="post-form-row"> >>>>>>>>>>> + <div >>>>>>>> class="share-select"> >>>>>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>>>> <label><lift:loc>ui_messages_share</lift:loc></label> >>>>>>>>>>> + <select >>>>>>>> id="vPool" >>>>>>>>>> class="inputBox2"> >>>>>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>>>>> <option >>>>>>>>>> value="0"> >>>>>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_pool_public</lift:loc> >>>>>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>>>>> </option> >>>>>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>>>> <lift:UserSnip.accessPools/> >>>>>>>>>>> + </select> >>>>>>>>>>> + </div> >>>>>>>>>>> <div class="update-btn"> >>>>>>>>>>> <input >>>>>>>> type="image" >>>>>>>>>> onclick="javascript:post_msg();" src="images/btn-update.gif" /> >>>>>>>>>>> </div> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > >
