I lean towards displaying the original URL or a truncated version of the original URL rather than displaying a shortened version. Short URLs deliver absolutely no information other than that there is a link involved, so I'd rather we use those characters to deliver some information.
If we go for a truncated version of the URL, I agree we should have a mouse-over display the full URL. Ethan On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually, there is a URL-shortener built in to ESME. Post a URL in a message > and then look at the message in the timeline - the href is shortened. We > have to decide whether to display this shortened href or the original link - > (Maybe as a mouse-over?) > > D. > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Sig Rinde <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Do you have countdown from 140 as well? >> And url shortening? >> Two very nice twitter features that.. >> >> Would definitely not be cool to manually count the chars :) >> >> >> On 6 April 2010 22:29, Ethan Jewett <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Thanks for doing this! I guess I'd leave it open until we have a more >> > permanent fix, but maybe lower the "badness" of the issue and make a >> > note of why that is happening? >> > >> > I'm actually starting to think that the best way to do this is to have >> > the javascript that populates the message text that is being replied >> > to truncate that text to 140 characters (or something). The user just >> > needs a sample and JS has easy functions for doing this. Hmmm. Maybe >> > tonight. >> > >> > What do you think? Do we want truncation or stretching as our final >> > fix for this issue? >> > >> > Ethan >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> If we encourage our users not to use more than 140 characters (which I >> always thought we should) - we are now safe. Shall I leave the ticket open >> as this is a bit of a quick fix, seeing we haven't imposed any limits for >> how long the messages can be. (yet) >> >> >> >> /Anne >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4. apr. 2010, at 01.44, Ethan Jewett wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> I already opened ESME-188 for this issue (the input area expanding) - >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-188 >> >>> >> >>> I don't think we need to move anything. Instead, we either need to >> >>> restrict the total length of the "reply to" section to only display >> >>> part of the message being replied to, or we need to make the input >> >>> area background expand dynamically to accomodate varied message >> >>> lengths. >> >>> >> >>> Ethan >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> I'll take a look at it tomorrow. >> >>>> We could also make the update box background a bit longer too. >> >>>> >> >>>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 18.57, Richard Hirsch wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Maybe it was some other tool. Smaller font and other color (grey?) >> might be >> >>>>> one option >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> I will take a look at it during tomorrow's daily UI hour, but >> smaller font >> >>>>>> might be one solution. >> >>>>>> twitter doesn't display the "reply to:" at all and brizzly displays >> an >> >>>>>> reply to box inline. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 18.52, Richard Hirsch wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> let's look at how twitter / brizzly do it. They use a smaller font. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe < >> >>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I like it :-) >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Now sort of unrelated. >> >>>>>>>> I think we need to move the "reply to" function, as it currently >> is it >> >>>>>>>> pushes the Share with and Update button out of the "what are you >> working >> >>>>>> on" >> >>>>>>>> box. Where should we move it to? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On 2. apr. 2010, at 01.33, [email protected] wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Author: esjewett >> >>>>>>>>> Date: Thu Apr 1 23:33:10 2010 >> >>>>>>>>> New Revision: 930136 >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=930136&view=rev >> >>>>>>>>> Log: >> >>>>>>>>> [ESME-187] Re-arrange input area so that the flow is a little >> better - >> >>>>>>>> this is a bit of an experiment - feel free to back out >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Modified: >> >>>>>>>>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Modified: >> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css >> >>>>>>>>> URL: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css?rev=930136&r1=930135&r2=930136&view=diff >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> ============================================================================== >> >>>>>>>>> --- incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css >> >>>>>>>> (original) >> >>>>>>>>> +++ incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css >> Thu Apr >> >>>>>>>> 1 23:33:10 2010 >> >>>>>>>>> @@ -192,10 +192,15 @@ label { >> >>>>>>>>> } >> >>>>>>>>> .login-btn, .update-btn, .submit-btn { >> >>>>>>>>> float:right; >> >>>>>>>>> -} >> >>>>>>>>> +} >> >>>>>>>>> +.share-select { >> >>>>>>>>> + float:left; >> >>>>>>>>> +} >> >>>>>>>>> .update-btn { >> >>>>>>>>> - margin-top:20px; >> >>>>>>>>> - padding-top:10px; >> >>>>>>>>> + margin-right:40px; >> >>>>>>>>> +} >> >>>>>>>>> +.update-btn, .share-select { >> >>>>>>>>> + margin-top:10px; >> >>>>>>>>> } >> >>>>>>>>> #form-update label { >> >>>>>>>>> font-weight:bold; >> >>>>>>>>> @@ -216,7 +221,7 @@ textarea.inputBox2 { >> >>>>>>>>> float:left; >> >>>>>>>>> background-color:#FFFFFF !important; >> >>>>>>>>> border:1px solid #a7aaad; >> >>>>>>>>> - width:440px; >> >>>>>>>>> + width:95%; >> >>>>>>>>> height:50px; >> >>>>>>>>> padding:4px; >> >>>>>>>>> margin-right:10px;color:#000; >> >>>>>>>>> @@ -532,7 +537,7 @@ h5 { font-size: 100%; } >> >>>>>>>>> h6 { font-size: 80%; } >> >>>>>>>>> img, img a {border:0px; } >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> -.clear {clear:both; height:20px; } >> >>>>>>>>> +.clear {clear:both;} >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> /* >> >>>>>>>>> .container-update, .container-tabs, .container-settings >> {behavior: >> >>>>>>>> url("src/iepngfix.htc");} >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Modified: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html >> >>>>>>>>> URL: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html?rev=930136&r1=930135&r2=930136&view=diff >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> ============================================================================== >> >>>>>>>>> --- >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html >> >>>>>>>> (original) >> >>>>>>>>> +++ >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html >> >>>>>>>> Thu Apr 1 23:33:10 2010 >> >>>>>>>>> @@ -26,29 +26,30 @@ >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_request</lift:loc> >> >>>>>>>>> </h3> >> >>>>>>>>> <div id="form-update"> >> >>>>>>>>> - <div id="messages"></div> >> >>>>>>>>> - >> >>>>>>>>> - <div class="post-form-row"> >> >>>>>>>>> - >> >>>>>>>> <label><lift:loc>ui_messages_share</lift:loc></label> >> >>>>>>>>> - <select id="vPool" >> >>>>>>>> class="inputBox2"> >> >>>>>>>>> - <option >> >>>>>> value="0"> >> >>>>>>>>> - >> >>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_pool_public</lift:loc> >> >>>>>>>>> - </option> >> >>>>>>>>> - >> >>>>>>>> <lift:UserSnip.accessPools/> >> >>>>>>>>> - </select> >> >>>>>>>>> - </div> >> >>>>>>>>> - <div class="row clear" >> >>>>>>>> style="display: none" id="reply-to-div"> >> >>>>>>>>> - >> >>>>>>>> >> <b><lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_reply</lift:loc></b> >> >>>>>>>>> - <span >> >>>>>>>> id="reply-to-span">-</span> >> >>>>>>>>> - <a href="javascript: >> >>>>>>>> clearReplyTo()"> >> >>>>>>>>> - >> >>>>>>>> >> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_remove_reply</lift:loc> >> >>>>>>>>> - </a> >> >>>>>>>>> - </div> >> >>>>>>>>> + <div id="messages"></div> >> >>>>>>>>> <div class="post-form-row"> >> >>>>>>>>> <textarea >> >>>>>> class="inputBox2" >> >>>>>>>> id="vMsg" rows="5" cols="80%"></textarea> >> >>>>>>>>> <div class="row >> clear" >> >>>>>>>> style="display: none"> >> >>>>>>>>> <input >> id="vTag" >> >>>>>>>> style="width: 90%"/> >> >>>>>>>>> </div> >> >>>>>>>>> + </div> >> >>>>>>>>> + <div class="row clear" >> >>>>>>>> style="display: none" id="reply-to-div"> >> >>>>>>>>> + >> >>>>>>>> >> <b><lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_reply</lift:loc></b> >> >>>>>>>>> + <span id="reply-to-span">-</span> >> >>>>>>>>> + <a href="javascript: clearReplyTo()"> >> >>>>>>>>> + >> >>>>>>>> >> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_remove_reply</lift:loc> >> >>>>>>>>> + </a> >> >>>>>>>>> + </div> >> >>>>>>>>> + <div class="post-form-row"> >> >>>>>>>>> + <div >> >>>>>> class="share-select"> >> >>>>>>>>> + >> >>>>>>>> <label><lift:loc>ui_messages_share</lift:loc></label> >> >>>>>>>>> + <select >> >>>>>> id="vPool" >> >>>>>>>> class="inputBox2"> >> >>>>>>>>> + >> <option >> >>>>>>>> value="0"> >> >>>>>>>>> + >> >>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_pool_public</lift:loc> >> >>>>>>>>> + >> </option> >> >>>>>>>>> + >> >>>>>>>> <lift:UserSnip.accessPools/> >> >>>>>>>>> + </select> >> >>>>>>>>> + </div> >> >>>>>>>>> <div >> class="update-btn"> >> >>>>>>>>> <input >> >>>>>> type="image" >> >>>>>>>> onclick="javascript:post_msg();" src="images/btn-update.gif" /> >> >>>>>>>>> </div> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >
