No one seems to disagree, so truncated it is.
Have you already looked at scripts for mouse-over display of the full URL?

/Anne


On 7 April 2010 16:55, Ethan Jewett <[email protected]> wrote:

> I lean towards displaying the original URL or a truncated version of
> the original URL rather than displaying a shortened version. Short
> URLs deliver absolutely no information other than that there is a link
> involved, so I'd rather we use those characters to deliver some
> information.
>
> If we go for a truncated version of the URL, I agree we should have a
> mouse-over display the full URL.
>
> Ethan
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Actually, there is a URL-shortener built in to ESME. Post a URL in a
> message
> > and then look at the message in the timeline - the href is shortened. We
> > have to decide whether to display this shortened href or the original
> link -
> > (Maybe as a mouse-over?)
> >
> > D.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Sig Rinde <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Do you have countdown from 140 as well?
> >> And url shortening?
> >> Two very nice twitter features that..
> >>
> >> Would definitely not be cool to manually count the chars :)
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6 April 2010 22:29, Ethan Jewett <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Thanks for doing this! I guess I'd leave it open until we have a more
> >> > permanent fix, but maybe lower the "badness" of the issue and make a
> >> > note of why that is happening?
> >> >
> >> > I'm actually starting to think that the best way to do this is to have
> >> > the javascript that populates the message text that is being replied
> >> > to truncate that text to 140 characters (or something). The user just
> >> > needs a sample and JS has easy functions for doing this. Hmmm. Maybe
> >> > tonight.
> >> >
> >> > What do you think? Do we want truncation or stretching as our final
> >> > fix for this issue?
> >> >
> >> > Ethan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> If we encourage our users not to use more than 140 characters (which
> I
> >> always thought we should) - we are now safe. Shall I leave the ticket
> open
> >> as this is a bit of a quick fix, seeing we haven't imposed any limits
> for
> >> how long the messages can be. (yet)
> >> >>
> >> >> /Anne
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 4. apr. 2010, at 01.44, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I already opened ESME-188 for this issue (the input area expanding)
> -
> >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-188
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I don't think we need to move anything. Instead, we either need to
> >> >>> restrict the total length of the "reply to" section to only display
> >> >>> part of the message being replied to, or we need to make the input
> >> >>> area background expand dynamically to accomodate varied message
> >> >>> lengths.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ethan
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>> I'll take a look at it tomorrow.
> >> >>>> We could also make the update box background a bit longer too.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 18.57, Richard Hirsch wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Maybe it was some other tool.  Smaller font and other color
> (grey?)
> >> might be
> >> >>>>> one option
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <
> >> [email protected]>wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I will take a look at it during tomorrow's daily UI hour, but
> >> smaller font
> >> >>>>>> might be one solution.
> >> >>>>>> twitter doesn't display the "reply to:" at all and brizzly
> displays
> >> an
> >> >>>>>> reply to box inline.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 18.52, Richard Hirsch wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> let's look at how twitter / brizzly do it. They use a smaller
> font.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <
> >> >>>>>> [email protected]>wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> I like it :-)
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Now sort of unrelated.
> >> >>>>>>>> I think we need to move the "reply to" function, as it
> currently
> >> is it
> >> >>>>>>>> pushes the Share with and Update button out of the "what are
> you
> >> working
> >> >>>>>> on"
> >> >>>>>>>> box. Where should we move it to?
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On 2. apr. 2010, at 01.33, [email protected] wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Author: esjewett
> >> >>>>>>>>> Date: Thu Apr  1 23:33:10 2010
> >> >>>>>>>>> New Revision: 930136
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=930136&view=rev
> >> >>>>>>>>> Log:
> >> >>>>>>>>> [ESME-187] Re-arrange input area so that the flow is a little
> >> better -
> >> >>>>>>>> this is a bit of an experiment - feel free to back out
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Modified:
> >> >>>>>>>>>  incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >>
> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Modified:
> >> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css
> >> >>>>>>>>> URL:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css?rev=930136&r1=930135&r2=930136&view=diff
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >>
> ==============================================================================
> >> >>>>>>>>> ---
> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css
> >> >>>>>>>> (original)
> >> >>>>>>>>> +++
> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css
> >> Thu Apr
> >> >>>>>>>> 1 23:33:10 2010
> >> >>>>>>>>> @@ -192,10 +192,15 @@ label {
> >> >>>>>>>>> }
> >> >>>>>>>>> .login-btn, .update-btn, .submit-btn {
> >> >>>>>>>>>     float:right;
> >> >>>>>>>>> -}
> >> >>>>>>>>> +}
> >> >>>>>>>>> +.share-select {
> >> >>>>>>>>> +     float:left;
> >> >>>>>>>>> +}
> >> >>>>>>>>> .update-btn {
> >> >>>>>>>>> -     margin-top:20px;
> >> >>>>>>>>> -     padding-top:10px;
> >> >>>>>>>>> +     margin-right:40px;
> >> >>>>>>>>> +}
> >> >>>>>>>>> +.update-btn, .share-select {
> >> >>>>>>>>> +     margin-top:10px;
> >> >>>>>>>>> }
> >> >>>>>>>>> #form-update label {
> >> >>>>>>>>>     font-weight:bold;
> >> >>>>>>>>> @@ -216,7 +221,7 @@ textarea.inputBox2 {
> >> >>>>>>>>>     float:left;
> >> >>>>>>>>>     background-color:#FFFFFF !important;
> >> >>>>>>>>>     border:1px solid #a7aaad;
> >> >>>>>>>>> -     width:440px;
> >> >>>>>>>>> +     width:95%;
> >> >>>>>>>>>     height:50px;
> >> >>>>>>>>>     padding:4px;
> >> >>>>>>>>>     margin-right:10px;color:#000;
> >> >>>>>>>>> @@ -532,7 +537,7 @@ h5 { font-size: 100%; }
> >> >>>>>>>>> h6 { font-size: 80%; }
> >> >>>>>>>>> img, img a {border:0px; }
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> -.clear {clear:both; height:20px; }
> >> >>>>>>>>> +.clear {clear:both;}
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> /*
> >> >>>>>>>>> .container-update, .container-tabs, .container-settings
> >> {behavior:
> >> >>>>>>>> url("src/iepngfix.htc");}
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Modified:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >>
> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html
> >> >>>>>>>>> URL:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html?rev=930136&r1=930135&r2=930136&view=diff
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >>
> ==============================================================================
> >> >>>>>>>>> ---
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >>
> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html
> >> >>>>>>>> (original)
> >> >>>>>>>>> +++
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >>
> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html
> >> >>>>>>>> Thu Apr  1 23:33:10 2010
> >> >>>>>>>>> @@ -26,29 +26,30 @@
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_request</lift:loc>
> >> >>>>>>>>>                             </h3>
> >> >>>>>>>>>                             <div id="form-update">
> >> >>>>>>>>> -                                      <div
> id="messages"></div>
> >> >>>>>>>>> -
> >> >>>>>>>>> -                                     <div
> class="post-form-row">
> >> >>>>>>>>> -
> >> >>>>>>>> <label><lift:loc>ui_messages_share</lift:loc></label>
> >> >>>>>>>>> -                                             <select
> id="vPool"
> >> >>>>>>>> class="inputBox2">
> >> >>>>>>>>> -                                                     <option
> >> >>>>>> value="0">
> >> >>>>>>>>> -
> >> >>>>>>>>
> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_pool_public</lift:loc>
> >> >>>>>>>>> -
> </option>
> >> >>>>>>>>> -
> >> >>>>>>>> <lift:UserSnip.accessPools/>
> >> >>>>>>>>> -                                             </select>
> >> >>>>>>>>> -                                     </div>
> >> >>>>>>>>> -                                     <div class="row clear"
> >> >>>>>>>> style="display: none" id="reply-to-div">
> >> >>>>>>>>> -
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> <b><lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_reply</lift:loc></b>
> >> >>>>>>>>> -                                            <span
> >> >>>>>>>> id="reply-to-span">-</span>
> >> >>>>>>>>> -                                            <a
> href="javascript:
> >> >>>>>>>> clearReplyTo()">
> >> >>>>>>>>> -
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_remove_reply</lift:loc>
> >> >>>>>>>>> -                                            </a>
> >> >>>>>>>>> -                                        </div>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +                                     <div
> id="messages"></div>
> >> >>>>>>>>>                                     <div
> class="post-form-row">
> >> >>>>>>>>>                                             <textarea
> >> >>>>>> class="inputBox2"
> >> >>>>>>>> id="vMsg" rows="5" cols="80%"></textarea>
> >> >>>>>>>>>                                             <div class="row
> >> clear"
> >> >>>>>>>> style="display: none">
> >> >>>>>>>>>                                                     <input
> >> id="vTag"
> >> >>>>>>>> style="width: 90%"/>
> >> >>>>>>>>>                                             </div>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +                                     </div>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +                                     <div class="row clear"
> >> >>>>>>>> style="display: none" id="reply-to-div">
> >> >>>>>>>>> +
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> <b><lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_reply</lift:loc></b>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +                        <span id="reply-to-span">-</span>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +                        <a href="javascript: clearReplyTo()">
> >> >>>>>>>>> +
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_remove_reply</lift:loc>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +                        </a>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +                    </div>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +                                     <div
> class="post-form-row">
> >> >>>>>>>>> +                                             <div
> >> >>>>>> class="share-select">
> >> >>>>>>>>> +
> >> >>>>>>>> <label><lift:loc>ui_messages_share</lift:loc></label>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +                                                     <select
> >> >>>>>> id="vPool"
> >> >>>>>>>> class="inputBox2">
> >> >>>>>>>>> +
> >> <option
> >> >>>>>>>> value="0">
> >> >>>>>>>>> +
> >> >>>>>>>>
> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_pool_public</lift:loc>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +
> >> </option>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +
> >> >>>>>>>> <lift:UserSnip.accessPools/>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +
> </select>
> >> >>>>>>>>> +                                             </div>
> >> >>>>>>>>>                                             <div
> >> class="update-btn">
> >> >>>>>>>>>                                                     <input
> >> >>>>>> type="image"
> >> >>>>>>>> onclick="javascript:post_msg();" src="images/btn-update.gif" />
> >> >>>>>>>>>                                             </div>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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