On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:57:31PM -0800, Chris LeBlanc wrote:
> 
> >IMO Richard Stallman is dangerous.
> >
> I would say just the opposite.  The ones that I think are dangerous is 
> folks like ESR, who don't mind watering down the freedoms they expect, 
> just to get a "win" by wooing some big company.
> 
> Me, I don't expect Oracle or any other big name to jump up and make 
> their stuff GPL.  I do like the idea that the GPL software I use today 
> will not get pulled, closed down, or restricted from me some time in the 
> future because it became popular.  If someone decides to pull the plug 
> on development of a GPL program, or tries to tie it in with TPM to both 
> give it to you, and lock it away, someone else can pick up where they 
> had left off and keep developing. 

you don't need the GPL for this.  look at the history of OpenSSH.

> > He does easily as much harm as good to
> >the community that supposedly doesn't exist.  We're talking about the guy
> >that pretty much singlehandedly made the KDE license war last an extra two
> >years because he insisted on GPL or nothing.  At the time, I asked the
> >people at Troll Tech what was wrong with the GPL.  Their response was
> >three letters: RMS.  There's such a thing as going to far, and he'd gone
> >it.  I saw the email and what Richard was doing.  It was designed to piss
> >them off and coerce them into the GPL.  The more he pushed, the more they
> >pushed back.  Only after he stopped pushing and let tempers settle for a
> >couple of years was it possible to speak reasonably about the topic.
> > 
> >
> Sorry, I wouldn't touch KDE until the whole QT license was taken care 
> of.  IMO, QT was stalling because they were wrong, but didn't want to 
> admit it.  RMS didn't back down because it was a good example of how 
> wrong some can be. 
> 
> >He's not going to listen to me, though.  By my own choice, I'm now pretty
> >much an unknown in the community unless someone remembers me from my
> >fortune file.  This kind of thing is why I left the community proper.
> > 
> >
> The sad truth is that the community needs extremists, not because their 
> way will end up being the norm, but because without someone pushing in 
> that direction, we never end up in the middle.

couldn't agree more (well, I don't think it is a "sad" truth, just
"the" truth).

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> 
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