Kevin Sharpe ZCW wrote:
I've driven a Tesla Roadster more than 48,000 miles in 3.5 years and see
almost no degradation... given this car is using 'commodity' cells I think
the claim that "most lithiums are shot in 3-5 years" is way off the mark.

For the price, I have to believe that Tesla did everything possible to insure the quality and life of your cells. They are hardly comparable to "commodity" cells!

But I'll bet you have a number of laptops, cellphones, iPods, etc. with lithium commodity cells. It's rare to find any over 5 years old without significant degradation in performance.

I did said "most" cells. And "most" cells go into various consumer products, that pay negligible attention to cell life. I'm sure this is part of the reason for short life.

The other problem is quality control. On the large prismatic lithium cells I've tested, some cells are very good; but there have always been "losers" in the lot that should have been rejected instead of sold. Since the weakest cell in a series string is what limits your performance and life, putting these "losers" in the pack degrades the whole thing.

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