You might be able to even make it automatically adjust the focus to slightly 
off-centre alignment, thereby making parking easier and the whole she-bang more 
efficient.  And maybe focus vertically as well as laterally/longitudinally?  MW


On 20 Jul 2014, at 19:54, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

> Another thought,  Peter.  Is it possible to use multiple coils to focus the 
> "beam"?  I don't know wave theory but I believe directional radio 
> transmitters work by having two or more antenae.  Can something similar be 
> done with inductive coils?
> 
> If so, then using some sort of directional recognizer, the transmitter could 
> focus the beam exactly to the receiver area.  I'm hoping this would reduce 
> risk of exposure when humans, animals are in the vicinity and also improve 
> efficiency.
> 
> Peri
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Lee Hart via EV" <[email protected]>
> To: "Martin WINLOW" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: 20-Jul-14 11:37:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BMW&Daimler developing 3-Hour Wireless Inductive 
> EVSE for i3 EV
> 
>> From: Martin WINLOW
>>> Not wanting to shoot your work down but I am reminded of (I think it was) 
>>> Lee's idea of using
>>> an auto engaging charger connection which would be much more efficient, 
>>> much cheaper and only
>>> marginally less practical.
>> 
>> It was actually Bob Rice's solution (although the idea is no doubt even 
>> older). In 1968, Bob had an EV with drive-on charging. It was a bump-stop 
>> that you drove up against. A platform between the front wheels would slide 
>> sideways to center itself between the front wheels. It had two brush 
>> contacts on the top surface, that mated with contacts on the bottom of the 
>> car. The contacts were dead until the car was present and electrical contact 
>> was established. Simple as dirt!
>> 
>> I know that people are often fascinated by complex solutions. Advertising 
>> can often talk them into paying extraordinary prices for trivial 
>> conveniences or hypothetical benefits. Companies like them because they can 
>> make a lot of money selling them (especially if they can get laws passed to 
>> make it a "standard"). But if you actually expect them to be widely used or 
>> survive in the long run, I think we'd all be better served by working on 
>> simpler ways of doing it.
>> 
>> GM's Magnecharger comes to mind. A good idea, expensively implemented, 
>> legislated as a standard, and now a footnote in history.
>> 
>> On an 85 KHz high power inductive charger: As an EE, I can't see how the 
>> charger can detect a 0.1% energy loss to some unexpected device in the area. 
>> And yet, that's enough power to easily heat up unintended "receivers" and 
>> fry sensitive electronics that by chance just happen to resonate at 85 KHz. 
>> How can you reassure me that this won't happen?
>> 
>> When I was designing safety-critical consumer electronics, we'd have someone 
>> on the team whose *job* it was to try to "break" the system. If the guy was 
>> good (and he needed to be) :-) he'd come up with things we never thought of 
>> in our wildest dreams! So... with your inductive setup, what if you *tried* 
>> to find a way to trick the electronics, and steal 5-10 watts of power from 
>> the charger without tripping the safety shutdowns? If you can do it, then 
>> Murphy will probably discover some mass-produced gadget that just happens to 
>> do it.
>> --
>> A free whistle given away in millions of boxes of Captain Crunch cereal just 
>> happened to be exactly the right frequency to turn off the phone company's 
>> long-distance billing equipment, so kids could make free long-distance calls!
>> --
>> Lee Hart http://www.sunrise-ev.com/controllers.htm now includes the GE EV-1 
>> controller
>> 
>> --
>> Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the one who is
>> doing it. -- Chinese proverb
>> --
>> Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart-at-earthlink.net
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