I agree with what you are saying ( though the numbers *will* change as people have to pay at charging stations), but by investing in cost reductions, I meant the cost of the battery to produce.
Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Michael Ross <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think people will eventually start doing the math on EVs. > > If I bought a Leaf now (there was a program where I could get a dealer > invoice as a university employee) for $23K, > and reduced the cost of it by the fuel cost > > (Swag that as 25 mpg divided by $2.50 a gallon to yield $0.10 a mile time > 150K miles = $15000 savings x 0.75 (to reduce for the cost of power) = $11250 > in savings) > I have now bought a decent car (better than an ICE) > that is more than adequate for 99% of my use > at a cost of $11750 > which has reduced maintenance cost and labor. > I left out any government incentives, rebates etc. > > I suspect that EVs in the future will better than a RAV5EV or a current > version of the Leaf. > > As soon as financing makes this possible for the vast majority of people who > can't afford to pay cash for their car we'll see a bunch more EVs in use. > > Really, EVs are cheap if you are not simply a used car buyer like myself. I > won't spend $12K on a car, but I can see the day coming when I might be able > to get a used EV that is worth having. > > Maybe I should be looking at Leafs.... > >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Not unlikely, though it seems to be that since the original RAV-4EV, >> investment for the most part has gone into cost reductions rather than range >> increases. IIRC, the range of the RAV4-EV was about 120 miles. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Nov 24, 2014, at 9:53 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > I think the solution will be much more boring than that. As battery >> > capacity increases and charge time decreases, we'll simply see filling >> > stations morph to charging stations. Status quo. >> > >> > I'm sure people will continue to charge at home if they're able. The rest >> > will use "filling" stations. >> > >> > Peri >> > >> > ------ Original Message ------ >> > From: "Lee Hart via EV" <[email protected]> >> > To: "Ben Goren" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion >> > List" <[email protected]> >> > Sent: 24-Nov-14 7:10:54 PM >> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] OT: status> the newswires are changing, (L1 >> > CORRECTION!) >> > >> >> Ben Goren via EV wrote: >> >>> I predict we'll see parking meters everywhere morph into charging >> >>> stations >> >> >> >> This is certainly the logical way to do it. However, logic has little to >> >> do with politics and business. >> >> >> >>> I also imagine there'll be much wringing of hands over figuring out >> >>> what to charge for charging as opposed to parking... >> >> >> >> Ironically, every parking meter I've ever seen already charges *way* more >> >> per hour than the cost of the electricity you could get from an AC outlet >> >> on that meter. >> >> >> >> -- Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any >> >> good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats. -- Howard Aiken >> >> -- >> >> Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >> >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >> > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> > > > > -- > Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain > happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? > Dalai Lama > > Tell me what it is you plan to do > With your one wild and precious life? > Mary Oliver, "The summer day." > > To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. > Thomas A. Edison > > A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. > Warren Buffet > > Michael E. Ross > (919) 550-2430 Land > (919) 576-0824 Google Phone > (919) 631-1451 Cell > (919) 513-0418 Desk > > [email protected] > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141125/50439a45/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
