Roland,

I read your posts (and people's posts) with amazement at what we, as
individuals, have actually achieved using our own resources, technical and
sometimes untechnical knowledge, and just plain old ingenuity.

A lot of what is said here sounds difficult to do, but when explained in simple
terms it becomes very doable for the person that doesn't think that they can do
it.

I wish that the rest of the world could see the conversions. They would see how
easy and economical it really is to have a conversion. I'm sure lots of you have
cameras that have video capability. I know that there are already a good number
of videos of conversions on Utube, but lets increase them and show the concepts
off (like how easy it is to plug in at home instead of gassing up at a gas
station). Document your conversion or the steps you are taking in your
conversions and put them up on Utube.

Let the world see more of the conversions.

Rush
Tucson AZ


> -----Original Message-----
> From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland via EV
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 8:44 AM
> To: tomw; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Portable EVSE: Turning over a new Leaf...
>
>
> Works for me.  I about to leave in 30 minutes, the ambient temperate in
Montana is
> 30 F., the battery and passenger cab temperature is 60 F.  The cab and battery
pre-
> heaters come on about 30 minutes before I leave, raising the cab and battery
> temperature to 80 F. using commercial power via a transfer switch.
>
>
>
> Never had to use the on board battery pack power for the last thirty four
years since
> I did this modification.
>
>
>
> Even at -41 F. I had no problem.  The preheater comes on for about one to two
hours
> while I was at work.  While every body had there engine running, scrapping the
ice
> off the windshield, I was the first one out of the parking lot, pushing
through a foot
> of snow.
>
>
>
> Roland
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: tomw via EV<mailto:[email protected]>
>
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 8:11 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Portable EVSE: Turning over a new Leaf...
>
>
>
> /"Nissan (like most big companies) suffers from Not Invented Here syndrome,
> which means they ignored EV history and experience and didn't provide battery
> heaters. (One of my projects is to see if I can add them)."/
>
> Yeah, I don't understand the rationale for this, seems penny wise and pound
> foolish. Year after year I read posts complaining about less range in winter.
Mine
> doesn't change much since I heat the pack to 65F when parked at home. Doesn't
> take much, 350W max, but the heaters aren't on all the time, boxes are
insulated so
> the cells remain above 50 F when parked outside in mid-20s F for 5 hours. Of
course
> running the cabin heater reduces range, but many times daytime temps are in
the
> mid-30's to mid-40's so I don't need cabin heat (wear a jacket) and range is
then
> similar to summer. I'd also guess that repeated use of the pack at low
temperatures
> reduces pack life.
> Doesn't seem worth it to save a few hundred bucks.  I don't think NIH is the
reason,
> they probably just thought it was an added cost that would improve performance
> but was not required. In Minn I'd say it's required! How are you supposed to
use it
> when temps drop to -30 F?
>
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