John,
Please note that you are commenting on UPS (the brown delivery trucks)
while the discussion was on USPS (the white box vans with blue "eagle")
which is a company delivering only in USA as far as I know, since it
stands for US Postal Service, not the United Parcel Service that you referred 
to.

Just trying to avoid confusion...

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-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hoegberg via EV
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 1:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?



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> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 20:06:48 +0000
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be 
> Electric?
> From: [email protected]
>
> Actually, the Nissan e-NV200 could be an option. Here, in Seattle, the 
> USPS mostly uses minivans for delivery. (They have their stepvans for 
> package delivery making separate routes.)
>
> I don't know if it has enough range for a full day or not. But, with a
> 20 minute quick charge during lunch, I'm sure it would.

Range would be a big problem here, (I assume the driver has a routes of about 
400km a day, and no charge time would be possible)  but maybe as an inner city 
delivery company only then it would probably work.


> What would it take to get USPS to start replacing their 12mpg(*)

-A miracle ? :-)

UPS is one of the most stupid delivery company on earth, drivers are not alowed 
to have a phone so they can ask for directions.. AND not allowed to have 
GPS!!??! Well..Good luck with that in Sweden, our country is not made of square 
blocks.  :-P 

it is common that they drive the daily 350 km with an insane bad aero truck 
just to find out that they cant find the way to the customer,  the last 2km or 
so..

They sometimes print out the Googlemaps-route instead, for the poor stressed 
out driver to use,, I got packages with 5 different zoom levels taped to the 
boxes.. wow.

The thing also have one of the lowest ratings I have ever seen on any company


> minivans with EVs? What would USPS driver acceptance be for a vehicle 
> that is already well accepted by others?

The driver is not the problem, they are in general good.. 
But it is an US-based company, and ruled by some very stubborn top dogs 
dictators without common sense. and without Ears?  :-)

I dont know if google translate will do a good job on the reviews, but it 
should be a good laugh to read and a hint about how to NOT run a delivery 
company!
http://gulasidorna.eniro.se/f/ups-united-parcel-service-sweden-ab:3513033
http://translate.google.se/#sv/en/ 

/ John
                                          
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