Good.  My last message appears to have been posted.  I used to frequent the 
EVDL a lot about 5 years ago.  Lately I participate on the DIY Electric Car 
forum.  There are numerous discussions about EnerDel over there as well as a FS 
classified by me selling some surplus modules.  I have posted actual test data 
from my own equipment as well as links and specifications.
I drive a 2011 Think City EV most days.  It is powered by 24kWh of EnerDel.  I 
have driven 20,000 of its 24,000 miles.  I suspect that is 600 to 700 charges.  
No noticeable loss of performance.  I also use EnerDel modules for other small 
EVs including competition carts.  I was crew chief for Lightning MC and we ran 
EnerDel setting the world land speed record 215.960mph in 2011 (still stands, 
SCTA flying mile, 2 wheeler, Bonneville).  The same bike and battery won the MC 
Pikes Peak Race.  It is a very good product made in the USA.
Regards,
Jeff M 


     On Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:32 PM, Jeff Major via EV <[email protected]> 
wrote:
   

 Hello EVDL,

EnerDel makes a great cell and battery here in the USA.  I have been to their 
factory in the Indianapolis area many times.  I use the product just about 
every day.  I can write more but want to see if this message makes to thru to 
the board.
Regards,
Jeff Major



    On Sunday, March 29, 2015 9:09 PM, HARSHA GODAVARI via EV 
<[email protected]> wrote:
  

 Their contact info shows their location as,"Greenfield .Ind" May be someone in 
the vicinity can pay them a visit. 

regards 
hg 

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From: "Michael Ross via EV" <[email protected]> 
To: "Mike" <[email protected]>, "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" 
<[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 12:09:01 AM 
Subject: Re: [EVDL] ENERDEL Battery Experiences 

Mike, 

Caveat emptor. 

A US company, but I can't see any information on the website that tells me 
they have a good cell, modules or packs. It is rather uninformative. I 
can't tell if they are more than an outlet for a non-US company. 

To me the most important thing to know is what they cells are made of, and 
have they had useful life testing; which is to say high precision 
coulometry. WIthout that knowledge there I very little about the life spec 
that is comforting. This will be hard to get from any manufacturer because 
it is new. But the usual life testing is very weak. If you find out more 
about the actual chemistry then you could look into that. Kick it around 
on thes forum. 

They say nothing about their US facilities. If I had to guess they are 
made overseas and branded ENRDEL. I would want to know more about that 
manufacturing. 

They do not cite a single customer application. They talk about how they 
could do these applications, but don't identify any actual uses. 

There is only one actual photograph of a cell, module, pack, or BMS. All 
CAD renderings - not a good sign. http://www.enerdel.com/se175-384-a-secure/ 
shows a completly generif metal box with lifting eyes. Not even and 
ENERDAL log. 

Call me suspicious. 

They might be an outlet for a perfectly competent Chinese manufacturer, or 
who knows what. 

Maybe you can get them to show you the beef. Maybe some testimonials? A 
happy customer you can call? 


Mike Ross 



On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Mike via EV <[email protected]> wrote: 

> I am in the process of deciding what type of Lithium batteries to use. 
> Been through all the retoric on CALB, etc. Read the used Nissan battery 
> threads and am leaning toward ENERDEL batteries for two reasons,, (1) They 
> are a US company and (2) the discharge curve seems to be a steady declining 
> ramp with a ‘soft’ end point. EVOLVE Electrics is also very helpful. I am 
> well aware the company had a rough few years but it looks like they have 
> recovered. Looking for a 144 volt nominal/168V max system and 200 AHrs. 
> So…does anyone have any solid experience using ENERDEL batteries? 
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