Actually,
the Nature article quotes 4 Amp per gram, so if a 2V cell weighs 1kg then it 
could produce 4,000A or 8kW per kg

The Capacity is quoted as 70mAh per gram, which is 140 Wh per kg (again, at the 
expected 2V cell voltage).

Note that all these numbers are the bare cell, so to compare with a CALB 180Ah 
cell you'd either need to
subtract the CALB's housing and connection hardware weight, or estimate how 
much it would add to the Alu
battery to make a similar rugged and packaged end product.
By all accounts, it looks like very competitive to Li cells, but all research 
takes many years before
you can place an order for commercial available product...
If it is really cheaper, better, safer, then we can see it break through sooner.
Time will tell.

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-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Dennis via EV
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 2:59 PM
To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Aluminum battery from Stanford

Their current version of the battery has only 40 watts of electricity per 
kilogram compared to lithium's 100 to 206 W/kg power density--so you'd need 
more of them to get the same power.  That might get better as they improve the 
cells, of course.

Bill 

-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Goren via EV
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 2:11 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: [EVDL] Aluminum battery from Stanford offers safe alternative to 
conventional batteries

Does anybody know any more about this research?

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2015/march/aluminum-ion-battery-033115.html 

Aluminum anode; graphite cathode. Unspecified salt for the electrolyte.

It's only about two volts. The rest of the specs are vague...nothing at all 
about capacity. They claim super-fast charging times without indicating how 
much energy the batteries actually take on. They claim several thousand charge 
cycles. No mention of energy density per mass. The prototype is bendable, in 
what looks for all the world like a mylar ziploc bag. They show the battery 
being drilled into with minimal ill effect.

I find it intriguing to consider for an electric vehicle...because a super-fast 
charging time, if real, would similarly imply a super-fast discharge rate. It 
gives the appearance of being technology within the reach of an hobbyist to 
manufacture. Form factor is obviously quite literally flexible.

In other words...I can almost imagine building a battery like this, myself, at 
home, to put into a car conversion. Or, if it's too heavy for vehicles, then to 
stick in the closet to pair with the solar PV array.

Any experts out there have any good water to throw over me?

b&
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