Hi Cor and All, The Volt likely is about 250-300lbs engine,systems and alt. For some reason the i3 is 365lbs for 50% of the power. I'd had expected MW would have done an engine right but they blew it at 2x's the weight or more than needed. Lotus had done one at 115lbs and 35kw. A smart way is a Metro 3cyl which at 56hp weighs in about 130lbs with systems plus alt replacing the flywheel or a Prius motor as alternator. I owned an 80 Luv/Isuzu pickup that looked identical to the S-10 next yr but only weighed 2400lbs and 1700 lbs stripped. With some aero work, etc I'd bet it could do 250wthrs/mile for about 80 mile range with a Leaf pack. With a RE above it could do most any pickup job. Or one of the factory old E10's, ERangers and convert to lithium. Another could be a stretched Leaf, Volt and do an El Camino version. But big auto needs to do EV pickup's soon as a big market. Jerry Dycus From: Cor van de Water via EV <[email protected]> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup TruckBefore Tesla You only need to look at the vehicles that *do* have a range extender such as the Volt and BMW and you have an idea what amount of weight is added for that particular function, especially if the range extender is optional such as on the BMW so you can compare the weight spec with and without...
Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Goren via EV Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 11:07 AM To: tomw; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup TruckBefore Tesla On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:18 AM, tomw via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > Is it capable of the 50kW continuous > estimated for the full size pickup? For this sort of back-of-the-envelope guesstimating, you can use a 1:1 conversion for kW and HP. Getting 50 HP out of a 1800 cc aircooled VW motor is no problem. Getting even more out of something smaller and lighter using modern engineering methods should be trivial -- especially if designed to run only at the speed that corresponds with peak power output. The VW engine fully dressed, including clutch and intake and exhaust and the like, weighs a couple hundred pounds. Generators are just motors run in reverse. The HPEVS AC-15 makes 60 HP and weighs 50 pounds. If the engineering team of a major auto manufacturer couldn't make a 50 kW system suitable for an hybrid with a gross weight less than that of the typical American passenger...that team should be fired. Cheers, b& -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20151023/c4f933b2/attachment.pgp> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20151023/0c0d778c/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
