Hi Paul, No problem - you are free to disagree. I predict that within 10 years nobody wants to deal with all those distracted drivers who are trying to drive while also staying in contact with their family, answering customers and colleagues and keeping their Facebook status updated. (Almost) everyone will gladly give the challenges of navigating the road to the self-driving car in the same way that you hire a driver today to bring you without the stress and fatigue of driving yourself. Indeed, there will be accidents and fatalities. But face it - today there are plenty of those as well without the machines, simply because humans take a risk. Yesterday I almost crashed because someone decided that they should try to cross the street coming from behind a van blocking the view of oncoming traffic.
Blinded by glaring sunlight? Indeed a cause of many crashes today. Totally preventable with good sensors. Radar is not bothered by sunlight. I think Tesla and others are onto something good when they see that long distance transportation and taxi services are where a lot of money can be found, though I suspect that a long-distance truck will still have one human on board (compared to two today, where they drive alternatingly today to keep the vehicle on the road as much as possible). In future the truck will drive itself while lumbering along on the freeway while the human sleeps/rests. At source and destination as well as at (recharge) stops, the human will take over and drive the truck and do all that is necessary to load/unload. But hey, I have been wrong before so, as always: time will tell. The fact that many dozens of Google self-driving cars are already on the road and without much problems, tells me which direction we are headed. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of paul dove via EV Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:03 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launchas adriverless(autonomous) Lyft platform Cor, I disagree completely. It is likely we will never have self driving vehicles on the freeway or in any other venue.Personally I think this is an exercise doomed to failure. The road is a complicated place and cannot be compared toair flight where few obstacles are encountered. This is evidenced by the Tesla that drove under the Semi. One day I was driving and the vehicle in front of me swerved because of an obstacle in the roadway and of courseI ran over it. It was a piece of tire from a Semi which flipped up and tore a gash in my drivers door. How are sensors going to detect things like that? Or lets say there's a sudden downpour, or you crest a hill and there's blindingsunlight I believe that many will attempt this and it will end in failure. It's one this t insure individuals it's a wholenew thing to insure software..... after all if the cars driving then the cars at fault....... who pays? From: Cor van de Water via EV <[email protected]> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:57 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as adriverless(autonomous) Lyft platform Paul, The reason they only go 25 MPH is simply that Google wanted a car fast and so had to choose to classify them as NEV. Any other 4-wheeled vehicle would have needed crash testing which is not only expensive and difficult but also a lengthy process. It makes no sense if you are just creating a testing platform with a few hundred vehicles. Of course 25 MPH helps in getting slightly longer reaction times due to low speed, but that is not a concern for Google, they wanted experience with a self-driving platform in daily traffic situations and that is what they are getting, never mind that these vehicles can't go on the freeway - the freeway is not a very interesting place for a self-driving vehicle. Cars being for sale or not has no bearing on the concerns from the posters stating that they do not want to be around self-driving cars, well in downtown Mountain View you can't avoid that... Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of paul dove via EV Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 2:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as adriverless(autonomous) Lyft platform While technically Google cars can drive around they only travel a max speed of 25mph. 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