Extra fee? That is adding insult to injury. The grid-tie solar is always consumed locally, so even the default payment for solar produced power, which typically only gives you the *generation* charges, while also the *transportation* is taken care of, but not rewarded, is already a setback for the viability of solar and increases the profit that utilities get from 3rd party financed solar, and now they also levy an extra fee, on top of their increased profit? Pretty scandalous and this is something to target for removal as unfair competition / monopoly abuse, but local laws may or may not be helpful. Cor
-----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT via EV Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 12:45 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: ROBERT Subject: Re: [EVDL] Solar powered RV Mike, you may have hit upon an interesting concept. In Tucson and Phoenix, the utility companies are charging an extra fee if you have solar panels. By using a set of mobile solar panels, you may avoid these charges and numerous other regulations such as local permits. Need to check the regulations. I would bet that the "powers that be" have missed the use of mobile solar panels. ________________________________ From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> on behalf of Mike Scott via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 9:27 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Mike Scott Subject: Re: [EVDL] Solar powered RV My little trailer has 800W on the roof and is grid tied while it's in the driveway. I went with this inverter due to the size of the array: https://amazon.com/gp/product/B00XJCVC44/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie =UTF8&psc=1 Amazon.com: SolarEpic 1000W Grid Tie Inverter MPPT Stackable Pure Sine Wave 10.8-30V Solar Input 90V-140V Output Fit For 12V Solar Panel: Patio, Lawn & Garden<https://amazon.com/gp/product/B00XJCVC44/ref=oh_aui_search_detail page?ie=UTF8&psc=1> amazon.com Amazon.com: SolarEpic 1000W Grid Tie Inverter MPPT Stackable Pure Sine Wave 10.8-30V Solar Input 90V-140V Output Fit For 12V Solar Panel: Patio, Lawn & Garden I got tired of unscrewing wires from the big terminal strips (12-32 screws, who did that??) so I could adjust for different amounts of sun when keeping the lead-acid batteries topped up. Now I have a bank of DPST switches from the auto parts store so each panel can go the the charge controller or to the grid tie inverter. I'd sure like to find a circuit to selectively switch the panels over based on battery voltage... In summertime a 50W panel will fill the batts each day after I heat my coffee in the microwave. That's a second inverter that just takes 12V and makes 120VAC for the microwave. Had to use my EV battery cable making skills for the 1 or 2 AWG wires feeding that! Stand alone the loads are the microwave and refrigerator (10A almost continuously), plus LED lights, radio and a few fans, one of which is in the refrigerator vent and another is in the roof vent. Both those fans will come on if it gets too hot and on hot days it took about 100W to keep the batts up. Still hit 100 degrees inside. Time for new screens... On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Solar RV. > > I saw this and realized our solar future is very close. > https://www.curbed.com/2017/9/1/16241030/electric-rv- [https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/vkrhGyF6kYydgjQST_vFdBLvUwY=/0x131:100 0x655/fit-in/1200x630/cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9161353 /dethleffs_ehome_concept_41.jpg]<https://www.curbed.com/2017/9/1/1624103 0/electric-rv-> All-electric motorhome is completely covered in solar panels<https://www.curbed.com/2017/9/1/16241030/electric-rv-> www.curbed.com The Dethleffs e.home Type C motorhome combines a zero-emissions powertrain with tons of smart technologies inside. > motorhome-dethleffs-camper Lawrence Rhodes > > It brags of 3 kW of solar arrays, but that is on all sides. Only one > side will see sun so the max power is about 1 kW max. And the panels > on the door and openable panels are not real, since the edges do not > even include complete cells. > > Also I question the logic of cells on the bottom of the front > overhang. A lot of hype.... but is the future. > > ANYTHING that sits in the sun allday should have solar panels on it. > Grid tie while sitting int he driveway and battery when camping. > > > I just bought a grid-tie inverter designed for 12v solar panels for > $67 bucks. But it is only good for 12v panels (Peak voltage of 28v > max). They did not say that in the add, just called it a 300W GT > inevrter. 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