I saw this and realized our solar future is very close.  
https://www.curbed.com/2017/9/1/16241030/electric-rv-motorhome-dethleffs-camper 
Lawrence Rhodes

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>    1. Re: In NJ: New 2017 Nissan Leafs for $15k (Lawrence Rhodes)
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>    3. EVSE needed> Canberra.ca Tesla driver has to wait overnight
>       just to get a multi-hr charge (brucedp5)
>    4. UNA gets electric car charging stations in Florence-AL (brucedp5)
>    5. EVLN: First Belarusian EV unveiled based on Geely SC7 ice
>       ts:110kph (brucedp5)
>    6. EVLN: New Zealand Post will purchase five electric vans with
>       EECA assistance (brucedp5)
>    7. EVLN: MXN440k/US$24.8k Zacua introduces its first electric
>       car from Mexico r:71mi (brucedp5)
>    8. Re: EVSE needed> Canberra.ca Tesla driver has to wait
>       overnight just to get a multi-hr charge (John Lindsay)
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> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 01:10:38 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Lawrence Rhodes <primobass...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: "ev@lists.evdl.org" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] In NJ: New 2017 Nissan Leafs for $15k
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> I got my 2016 Leaf for $13,550 in Dec. 2016..? That is with normal California 
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> From: brucedp5 <bruce...@juno.com>
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Subject: [EVDL] Changes: EVLN posts ...
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> Normally, I only make one post each day, referencing to several EVLN items
> members can pick and choose from.
>
> But something has changed with nabble: I can no longer do that. 
> I have sent a message to our evdl sysop about this.
>
> But in (hopefully) the short term, I will have to clog up your intrays with
> individual EVLN posts.
>
> -Bruce
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> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 02:54:20 -0700 (MST)
> From: brucedp5 <bruce...@juno.com>
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Subject: [EVDL] EVSE needed> Canberra.ca Tesla driver has to wait
> overnight just to get a multi-hr charge
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> http://www.sunraysiadaily.com.au/story/4870358/electric-car-driver-short-circuited/
> Electric car driver short-circuited
> 22 Aug 2017  Tyrone Dalton
>
> [image  / Louise Donges
> http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-mJpm52jWVuArAFdazE3qPb/02bdf7eb-61cc-4ac2-bd7c-b156647e3b87.jpg/r3_60_1178_724_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg
> Darryl Bourke, of Canberra, with his electric car
> ]
>
> MILDURA has a long way to go if it is to meet the demand of an electric car
> future, Tesla driver and enthusiast Darryl Bourke says.
>
> Passing through Mildura last week, the Canberra resident said he was forced
> to park his car at Azzco Engineering overnight so he could connect to
> three-phase power and charge his car so he could drive 291km to Hay.
>
> ?For me to charge up it?s not just fill the petrol and drive away again.
> I?ve got to connect in and I?m there for hours ? so I?d buy a coffee, stay
> overnight, walk around the shops and have a meal, so there is economic
> benefit of having a charge point in regional towns,? Mr Bourke said.
> [? 2017 Fairfax Media]
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 02:59:22 -0700 (MST)
> From: brucedp5 <bruce...@juno.com>
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Subject: [EVDL] UNA gets electric car charging stations in Florence-AL
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> http://www.timesdaily.com/news/local/una-gets-electric-car-charging-stations/article_a737b9eb-17c0-543a-a37b-424620fa40af.html
> UNA gets electric car charging stations
> Aug 26, 2017 Jennifer Edwards
>
> [image  
> https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/timesdaily.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/c8/7c8325f0-a620-5d1d-8ecb-2bff312ee224/59a0f565e5d0d.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C900
> UNA students gather around a Tesla Model X parked on the Harrison Plaza on
> Friday afternoon. A small fleet of Tesla electric vehicles were in town as
> part of the unveiling of electric vehicle charging stations on the UNA
> campus.  / Jennifer Edwards
> ]
>
> FLORENCE -- The University of North Alabama could become an electric car
> gathering spot now with the installation of Tesla and generic electric
> vehicle charging stations.
>
> The Tesla charging stations went online Thursday, and the other charging
> stations will be installed once the equipment arrives.
>
> Representatives with Tesla, a premium electric car company, were in Florence
> for the Billy Reid Shindig on Friday and made the official announcement
> about the charging stations.
>
> Tesla provided the charging stations at no cost, and contributed $3,000 per
> station for installation.
>
> UNA marketing professor Santanu Borah said the partnership came together
> quickly as this weekend's Shindig event approached.
>
> UNA President Ken Kitts was given the opportunity to drive the Tesla Model
> X, a top-of-the-line crossover SUV, early Friday afternoon. During his
> drive, he noted that a partnership with an innovative company like Tesla is
> in line with the personality of the university.
>
> "There is a good bit of innovation and entrepreneurial spirit at UNA and in
> this community," he said.
>
> There are just two other electric vehicle charging stations in Florence and
> both are located at private businesses.
>
> Tesla has a specific plug for its vehicle charging stations, but the more
> universal charging station can be used for other types of electric vehicles,
> such as the Nissan Leaf, Toyota Prius or the Chevrolet Bolt.
>
> The charging stations are located at the back of the small UNA parking lot
> on Irvine Avenue, and at the side of the university math building in the
> parking lot behind Stevens Hall.
>
> The Tesla charging stations appear on the in-vehicle interface as a
> lightning bolt icon to help Tesla drivers find a charging station while on
> the move.
>
> The installation of public charging stations could help bolster economic
> growth in the Shoals, Chamber of Commerce Director Caitlin Holland said in a
> news release.
>
> "We strive to make our community one that builds upon its storied past in
> order to create a prosperous future," Holland said. "To achieve that goal,
> we must always look to the future -- the future of industry, education,
> health care and transportation. The availability of charging facilities for
> the rapidly expanding electric vehicle market would be a step in that
> important direction."
> [? timesdaily.com]
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 03:03:06 -0700 (MST)
> From: brucedp5 <bruce...@juno.com>
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: First Belarusian EV unveiled based on Geely SC7
> ice ts:110kph
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>
> http://eng.belta.by/economics/view/first-belarusian-electric-car-unveiled-104219-2017/
> First Belarusian electric car unveiled Economy 
> 22.08.2017  
>
> [images  
> http://eng.belta.by/images/storage/news/000021_48686_big.jpg
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> http://eng.belta.by/uploads/lotus/news/000021_F143C7F0DE93CB5643258184003FC694_713681.jpg
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> http://eng.belta.by/uploads/lotus/news/000021_F143C7F0DE93CB5643258184003FC694_245733.jpg
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> http://eng.belta.by/uploads/lotus/news/000021_F143C7F0DE93CB5643258184003FC694_652987.jpg
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> http://eng.belta.by/uploads/lotus/news/000021_F143C7F0DE93CB5643258184003FC694_240755.jpg
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> http://eng.belta.by/uploads/lotus/news/000021_F143C7F0DE93CB5643258184003FC694_428879.jpg
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> http://eng.belta.by/uploads/lotus/news/000021_F143C7F0DE93CB5643258184003FC694_605416.jpg
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> http://eng.belta.by/uploads/lotus/news/000021_F143C7F0DE93CB5643258184003FC694_525588.jpg
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> http://eng.belta.by/uploads/lotus/news/000021_F143C7F0DE93CB5643258184003FC694_390668.jpg
>
> http://eng.belta.by/uploads/lotus/news/000021_F143C7F0DE93CB5643258184003FC694_892218.jpg
>
> http://eng.belta.by/uploads/lotus/news/000021_F143C7F0DE93CB5643258184003FC694_135393.jpg
> ]
>
> MINSK, 22 August (BelTA) ? The National Academy of Sciences of Belarus
> (NASB) has presented the first Belarusian electric car. The event took place
> at the national proving ground for mobile vehicles of the NASB's Mechanical
> Engineering Institute, BelTA has learned. 
>
> ?One year ago we approached Chairman of the Presidium of the National
> Academy of Sciences of Belarus Vladimir Gusakov with the proposal to create
> an electric car. He backed the idea. Less than one year later you can see an
> experimental model with all the parameters, the look, and with the electric
> components we have created with assistance of other companies with the
> relevant competences,? said Sergei Poddubko, Director General of the
> Mechanical Engineering Institute. 
>
> In his words, the car has been designed for urban conditions. The motor's
> output is 60kW or some 80hp. The power is sufficient for urban conditions.
> ?The top speed we have tested in this proving ground is 110kmph. We have not
> clearly determined the time from 0 to 100kmph yet. We use the car sparingly
> and therefore have installed a digital safety system. We are gradually
> improving its capabilities. We will find out everything it is capable of
> with time. If necessary, we will make adjustments,? said the official. 
>
> The car's battery can be charged using the regular 220V power socket or a
> special charger. If the voltage is 220V, it takes six hours to fully charge
> the battery. If the voltage is higher, then it takes about four hours, noted
> Sergei Poddubko. 
>
> The experimental electric car is based on the stock car Geely SC7, which is
> assembled in Belarus. The experimental car will allow finding optimal
> compositions for electric components, fine-tuning their parameters, paving
> way for the creation of a batch-produced prototype followed by the possible
> commercial production of electric cars in Belarus. 
>
> All the components of the electric traction drive are made in Belarus. The
> developers only had to import the drive battery from the Russian company
> Ener Z, which had won the relevant tender. 
>
> Instructions have been given to start producing batteries in Belarus. The
> materials research center of the National Academy of Sciences of Belarus has
> come up with a new effective material, which can be used to create super
> capacitors to power electric drive vehicles.
> [? Belarusian Telegraph Agency 2017 BelTA]
> ...
> http://www.chinamobil.ru/eng/geely/sc7/?view=props
> Geely SC7: Specifications ... a high-performance business sedan ...
> ...
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geely
> Geely is a Chinese multinational automotive manufacturing company
> headquartered in Hangzhou, Zhejiang. Its principal products are automobiles,
> taxis ...
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 03:12:43 -0700 (MST)
> From: brucedp5 <bruce...@juno.com>
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: New Zealand Post will purchase five electric
> vans with EECA assistance
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>
> https://futurefive.co.nz/story/new-zealand-post-plans-expand-its-fleet-electric-vans/
> New Zealand Post plans to expand its fleet with electric vans
> August 21, 2017  Jacques-Pierre Dumas
>
> [image  
> https://futurefive.co.nz/media/cache/f5/fa/f5fad8e9b076282a894578edf33898ee.jpg
> e-van
> ]
>
> New Zealand Post announced that it is partnering with Energy Efficiency and
> Conservation Authority (EECA) to accelerate the uptake of electric vehicles
> in New Zealand.
>
> With assistance from EECA?s Low Emission Vehicles Contestable Fund, New
> Zealand Post will purchase five electric vans and assess their suitability
> for use in the courier fleet.
>
> The new vehicles will allow courier drivers to see for themselves what it is
> like to drive an electric van so that they can consider purchasing or
> leasing their own.
>
> The vans will be used at courier depots and delivery branches at different
> locations around the country.
>
> This initiative is meant to help towards mainstreaming electric vans in NZ?s
> courier fleet.
>
> Sam Bridgman, New Zealand Post sustainability specialist says, ?We would
> like to thank the EECA in helping us with this funding. 
>
> ?In addition to our other low-carbon initiatives, these vehicles will help
> us develop new ways to reduce the carbon footprint of the mail fleet.?
>
> New Zealand Post has over 1,000 vans and already has the largest road-worthy
> electric vehicle fleet in the country with the electric Paxster delivery
> vehicles.
>
> This continues to expand on the NZ goal to convert to an EV fleet. 
>
> As larger corporations continue to take up and showcase the viability of EVs
> the general population will begin to follow.
>
> There is still quite a bit of infrastructure that needs to be put into place
> over the next five years, however. 
>
> Fast-chargers need to become a more commonplace around the country, becoming
> as prevalent as gas stations.
>
> This would also help power companies focus the grid, which is one of the
> major issues with EVs right now. 
>
> If charging stations become commonplace, service providers will know where
> to focus their resources to avoid strain on the electricity grid. 
>
> This would also be a great example how effective EVs can be in the
> commercial sector, which in turn can encourage the uptake of other heavy EVs
> such as trucks.
>
> It seems like the government's 2021 EV goal may become a reality at the
> current rate of uptake.
> [? Techday]
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 03:16:05 -0700 (MST)
> From: brucedp5 <bruce...@juno.com>
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: MXN440k/US$24.8k Zacua introduces its first
> electric car from Mexico r:71mi
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>
> http://inhabitat.com/zacua-introduces-the-first-electric-car-from-mexico/
> Zacua introduces the first electric car from Mexico
> 20170822  Marc Carter 
>
> [images  
> http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/08/M3-PERFIL-carousel.jpg
>
> http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/08/Zacua-0001.jpg
>
> http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/08/Zacua-0004.jpg
>
> http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/08/Zacua-0003.jpg
>
> http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/08/Zacua-0006.jpg
> ]
>
> You might not know about Zacua, but the company is making headlines on both
> sides of the border with the first electric car made in Mexico by a Mexican
> company. Zacua just introduced two new electric cars to the market, the M2
> and the M3 ? and they are both expected to go on sale in November.
>
> The two small electric coupes will be made by Motores Limpios, but sold in
> Mexico under the Zacua brand name. In Mexico there is a need for small, zero
> emissions vehicles, especially in densely-populated urban areas.
>
> ?Global warming has very serious consequences (and) Mexico cannot remain on
> the margins. Mexico has to be a protagonist with tangible initiatives that
> start to make a difference right away,? said company director Jorge
> Mart?nez.
>
> At 120-inches-long, the small Zacua Coupe is still just over a foot longer
> than the Smart Fortwo, but only weighs 838 pounds compared to the 2,000
> pound Smart. The Zacua M2 and M3 are powered by a 6.1 kWh lithium-ion
> battery that provides a driving range of 71 miles and takes eight hours to
> fully charge.
>
> Following the introduction of the two-seater M2 and M3 models, Zacua is
> planning a larger four passenger car that will be introduced in 2020.
> Production of the two-seater models will be extremely limited, since Zacua
> only plans put 100 units on sale in November, which will be followed by 200
> in 2018 and an additional 300 in 2019. Pricing starts at 440,000 pesos (US
> $24,500).
>
> ?This new Zacua coupe meets urban needs,? Mart?nez said, adding ?that?s what
> we?ve been working on and we?ve received enormous encouragement from the
> Mexico City government.?
> [? inhabitat.com]
> ...
> [dated]
> http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/zacua-electric-car-on-sale-in-november/
> Zacua electric car on sale in November
> Jul 11, 2017 - Manufacturer will offer two models, with prices starting at
> 440,000 pesos ... The Zacua is the first electric car made completely in
> Mexico by a 100% Mexican company and is expected to go on sale in November
> ...
> http://mexiconewsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/zacua.jpg
>
>
>
> https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacua
> Zacua  Es una compa??a mexicana (La primera) dedicada a la fabricaci?n de
> autom?viles el?ctricos ... Autos en M?xico ? Fabricantes de autom?viles de
> M?xico.
> https://www.facebook.com/zacuaautos/
> ...
> [videos  dated
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be06vkrQm2s
> Zacua M2 y M3, los autos mexicanos 100% el?ctricos - 6:08
> Jul 7, 2017 - Uploaded by Par?ntesis.com
> Paren todo porque tenemos nueva marca mexicana de coches: se llama Zacua y
> se present? ayer con dos ...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2T660Zkmew
> Zacua, la primera marca mexicana de autos el?ctricos - 3:02
> Jul 10, 2017 - Uploaded by Atracci?n360
> Zacua es la primera marca de veh?culos el?ctricos, creada por Jorge Mart?nez
> Ramos. Este empresario uni? ...
> ]
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:15:54 +0930
> From: John Lindsay <johnslind...@mac.com>
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVSE needed> Canberra.ca Tesla driver has to wait
> overnight just to get a multi-hr charge
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> The inland route from Adelaide to Sydney via the "riverland" isn't well 
> served with charging infrastructure yet but the Australian Electric Vehicle 
> Association (AEVA) has a few activist members who have been convincing 
> businesses in rural towns to install 22 kilowatt three phase power outlets 
> that Teslas can use with a suitable charging cable. Plugshare shows lots of 
> these now. 
>
> (We do 3 x 240 volt relative to neutral/ground 120 degree phases in Australia 
> like most of Europe.)
>
> It's an exciting time to drive a production EV in Australia!
>
> I drove my Tesla between Adelaide and Melbourne recently. 800km with only one 
> Supercharger on the route :-( Tesla are rolling out two more Superchargers 
> this year which will shave about three hours off the drive time making it 
> similar to the ICE 9ish hours. 
>
> John Lindsay (in Adelaide, Australia) 
>
> > On 30 Aug 2017, at 7:24 pm, brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.sunraysiadaily.com.au/story/4870358/electric-car-driver-short-circuited/
> > Electric car driver short-circuited
> > 22 Aug 2017  Tyrone Dalton
> > 
> > [image  / Louise Donges
> > http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-mJpm52jWVuArAFdazE3qPb/02bdf7eb-61cc-4ac2-bd7c-b156647e3b87.jpg/r3_60_1178_724_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg
> > Darryl Bourke, of Canberra, with his electric car
> > ]
> > 
> > MILDURA has a long way to go if it is to meet the demand of an electric car
> > future, Tesla driver and enthusiast Darryl Bourke says.
> > 
> > Passing through Mildura last week, the Canberra resident said he was forced
> > to park his car at Azzco Engineering overnight so he could connect to
> > three-phase power and charge his car so he could drive 291km to Hay.
> > 
> > ?For me to charge up it?s not just fill the petrol and drive away again.
> > I?ve got to connect in and I?m there for hours ? so I?d buy a coffee, stay
> > overnight, walk around the shops and have a meal, so there is economic
> > benefit of having a charge point in regional towns,? Mr Bourke said.
> > [? 2017 Fairfax Media]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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