Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
The used car salesman approach to advocacy?

Did you know that I can receive in 10 minutes a package from a company in 

9 minutes to order the package, and one minute (at most!) to bring it inside.

Still, it's a clever way to frame the question. Most people seem obsessed with how much of *their* time it takes to do something.

Sure; they could drive to a store, get out of their car, spend 10 minutes to get the item, wait in line to pay for it, etc. They have what they want in maybe 15 minutes; but they see that as a major inconvenience.

Or they could order it online, at home. A few clicks on the computer or phone, and it's done. It all takes less than a minute. Even though the item might take a week to arrive, they're still happy because it took so little of *their* time!

Charging an EV can be framed the same way. Instead of 30 minutes driving to a gas station to refuel your car, you spend just a matter of seconds to "order it online" (i.e. plug in, in your garage) and your fuel is delivered. Free overnight delivery, too, at no extra cost! :-)

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On Dec 16, 2017, at 1:18 AM, brucedp5 via EV <> wrote:
Will Electric Vehicles Ever Be Able To Fully Charge In Ten Minutes Or Less?
Nov 30, 2017  Quora , Contributor

When do you think (if ever) electric vehicles will be able to charge (fully)
in 5-10 min? [
] originally appeared on Quora: the place to gain and share knowledge,
empowering people to learn from others and better understand the world.

Answer by Jeff Solie, advocate for electric vehicles, on Quora:

When do you think electric vehicles will be able to charge fully in 5-10

This is the most common question asked by people who do not yet understand
electric vehicles. We’re already way faster than five minutes.

Every night, I plug in my car. And every morning I drive away with a full
tank of electrons. I didn’t go anywhere or do anything, other than spend the
full seven to eight seconds it took to plug in my car.

So in a way - it currently takes seven or eight seconds to charge my car.
Which is significantly shorter than it takes to fill a tank with gasoline.

When I wake in the morning - I have 212 miles of range (80% of my 85kWh
battery). If I know the day before that I’ll drive farther than 212 miles
(this happens at least three or four days per year), then I charge higher
than 80%. If I’m traveling (another six-ish times per year), then I have my
route planned.

But excluding the six-ish days per year when I’m traveling - the other 359
days per year are well within my daily range. If I got really anxious - I
could rent a car six times. But I don’t. It’s totally not necessary.

With that said - I also do have to invest the time required to unplug my car
in the morning… so the seven to eight seconds is a little bit skewed. It’s
probably more like fifteen seconds all-in. I spend so much less time fueling
than a person with a twentieth century gas powered car - it’s amazing to me
that this is a question. But I understand - it’s a learning curve. I’m way
on the leading edge of the curve. It’s fun over here.

It’s also far less expensive.

I drive 24,000 miles per year. My total cost of fuel in 2016 was $621. If I
was in a twentieth century gas car getting 20 mpg - that number would have
been more like $4,800 - and that’s with gas at $2.40.

And my oil changes were right around $0.

And my timing belts were $0.

And my brakes were $0 (regenerative braking… way awesome).

And my spark plugs were $0.

And my transmission fluid change was $0.

And my serpentine belt was $0.

And my emissions test were $0.

And my sensors and catalytics were $0.

And my air filters were $0.

Etc., etc., etc.

And I fill my car in fifteen seconds.

I hope that helps. It’s a process. It’s a learning curve. It’s a paradigm
shift. And those of us in the EV community are all patient to wait for the
ah-ha moments in everyone’s eyes. I am hoping this made at least one ah-ha
moment happen?

"Verschlimmbessern" (German, verb) - To make something worse by
trying to improve it. (English translation: "Microsoft"?)
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