I agree, if that limited niche fits for you (it does for lots of people). I would take issue with the thought of someone driving 30 minutes to fill their car with gas. Are you referring to rural areas of sone sort?
Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Lee Hart via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: >> The used car salesman approach to advocacy? >> >> Did you know that I can receive in 10 minutes a package from a company in >> Europe? >> >> 9 minutes to order the package, and one minute (at most!) to bring it inside. > > Still, it's a clever way to frame the question. Most people seem obsessed > with how much of *their* time it takes to do something. > > Sure; they could drive to a store, get out of their car, spend 10 minutes to > get the item, wait in line to pay for it, etc. They have what they want in > maybe 15 minutes; but they see that as a major inconvenience. > > Or they could order it online, at home. A few clicks on the computer or > phone, and it's done. It all takes less than a minute. Even though the item > might take a week to arrive, they're still happy because it took so little of > *their* time! > > Charging an EV can be framed the same way. Instead of 30 minutes driving to a > gas station to refuel your car, you spend just a matter of seconds to "order > it online" (i.e. plug in, in your garage) and your fuel is delivered. Free > overnight delivery, too, at no extra cost! :-) > > Sent from my iPhone >>> On Dec 16, 2017, at 1:18 AM, brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/11/30/will-electric-vehicles-ever-be-able-to-fully-charge-in-ten-minutes-or-less/ >>> Will Electric Vehicles Ever Be Able To Fully Charge In Ten Minutes Or Less? >>> Nov 30, 2017 Quora , Contributor >>> >>> When do you think (if ever) electric vehicles will be able to charge (fully) >>> in 5-10 min? [ >>> https://www.quora.com/When-do-you-think-if-ever-electric-vehicles-will-be-able-to-charge-fully-in-5-10-min >>> ] originally appeared on Quora: the place to gain and share knowledge, >>> empowering people to learn from others and better understand the world. >>> >>> Answer by Jeff Solie, advocate for electric vehicles, on Quora: >>> >>> When do you think electric vehicles will be able to charge fully in 5-10 >>> minutes? >>> >>> This is the most common question asked by people who do not yet understand >>> electric vehicles. We’re already way faster than five minutes. >>> >>> Every night, I plug in my car. And every morning I drive away with a full >>> tank of electrons. I didn’t go anywhere or do anything, other than spend the >>> full seven to eight seconds it took to plug in my car. >>> >>> So in a way - it currently takes seven or eight seconds to charge my car. >>> Which is significantly shorter than it takes to fill a tank with gasoline. >>> >>> When I wake in the morning - I have 212 miles of range (80% of my 85kWh >>> battery). If I know the day before that I’ll drive farther than 212 miles >>> (this happens at least three or four days per year), then I charge higher >>> than 80%. If I’m traveling (another six-ish times per year), then I have my >>> route planned. >>> >>> But excluding the six-ish days per year when I’m traveling - the other 359 >>> days per year are well within my daily range. If I got really anxious - I >>> could rent a car six times. But I don’t. It’s totally not necessary. >>> >>> With that said - I also do have to invest the time required to unplug my car >>> in the morning… so the seven to eight seconds is a little bit skewed. It’s >>> probably more like fifteen seconds all-in. I spend so much less time fueling >>> than a person with a twentieth century gas powered car - it’s amazing to me >>> that this is a question. But I understand - it’s a learning curve. I’m way >>> on the leading edge of the curve. It’s fun over here. >>> >>> It’s also far less expensive. >>> >>> I drive 24,000 miles per year. My total cost of fuel in 2016 was $621. If I >>> was in a twentieth century gas car getting 20 mpg - that number would have >>> been more like $4,800 - and that’s with gas at $2.40. >>> >>> And my oil changes were right around $0. >>> >>> And my timing belts were $0. >>> >>> And my brakes were $0 (regenerative braking… way awesome). >>> >>> And my spark plugs were $0. >>> >>> And my transmission fluid change was $0. >>> >>> And my serpentine belt was $0. >>> >>> And my emissions test were $0. >>> >>> And my sensors and catalytics were $0. >>> >>> And my air filters were $0. >>> >>> Etc., etc., etc. >>> >>> And I fill my car in fifteen seconds. >>> >>> I hope that helps. It’s a process. It’s a learning curve. It’s a paradigm >>> shift. And those of us in the EV community are all patient to wait for the >>> ah-ha moments in everyone’s eyes. I am hoping this made at least one ah-ha >>> moment happen? >>> [© forbes.com] > > -- > "Verschlimmbessern" (German, verb) - To make something worse by > trying to improve it. (English translation: "Microsoft"?) > -- > Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
